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    Portland OR--Chirstmas Tree Bomber?

    So, let's get this straight...

    The FBI knew about this guy since July 2010, had been tapping his phones and intercepting his emails since then, corresponding with him through a Pakistani proxy server, helped him video record his "statement", and even built the "bomb" for him, according to AP:

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...e13c57f9b5b370

    http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/gl...fbi/index.html

    And he's guilty of WHAT?

    If a citizen DOESN'T follow the direction of an LEO, he gets charged with "contempt of cop."

    If a citizen DOES follow the direction of an LEO, he gets charged with "attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction"...

    Looks like the American People are in a lose-lose situation, folks...
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    You'll never get this straight, because you live in a world of delusions. It is more than plausible to everyone (who isn't living in Alex "Captain Bull$hit" Jones' nightmare world), that this little muzbot sociopath believed he found a group of like minded muzbot sociopaths who helped him realize his dream of killing Americans. It is what it is, and as much as you want to believe islamic jihad was invented by some obscure group of billionaires, and not a flea bitten 7th century arabian pedophile warlord, won't make it a reality.
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    From the AP report:

    The undercover agent said he could introduce him to an explosive expert and asked Mohamud to research potential targets.

    Dan Rather giving evidence on CBS news that the FBI was involved in building the bomb and setting up the 1993 World Trade Center bombing:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXBmmf9F4rw


    And the New York Times, reporting the same story:

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...53C1A965958260


    Report from Salon.com on how the State Department interceded to allow the "Underwear Bomber" to get on Flight 253:

    Under questioning by Rep. Dan Lungren, Kennedy confirmed that Abdulmutallab’s case was one in which US intelligence officials had interceded to block a visa revocation.
    http://open.salon.com/blog/gordon_wa...derwear_bomber


    Yeah, you know, you're probably right...

    When the sworn testimonies before the House Committee on Homeland Security, and nationally know reporters uncover recordings made of the FBI entrapping and equipping the 1993 bombers, and state department, DOD and intelligence community members admit to these things under oath during investigations, we should only NATURALLY assume that it's all just one big conspiracy theory being perpetuated by wing-nuts. Because we all know that the "conspiracy theorists" are so all-powerful that they can force government officials to admit to things that aren't true, and can fabricate Congressional Testimonies, official court transcripts, and the FBI's own surveillance recordings...

    Do you even READ the news? Does your memory span last longer than it takes to empty an M-16 magaine, or has your brain been so fried and twisted by PTSD and psychotropics like Effexor, Zoloft, and various SSRIs forced on soldiers by the DOD that you can't remember what day it is without looking at your "Help for Heros" calendar between wanks:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...y-charity.html

    Believe what you will. Personally, I rely on the words that come out of the mouths of these duplicitous federal villains when they consistently admit that, yes, most of the "attacks" over the last 10 years have, in fact, been "inside jobs".

    Who are you going to believe? Your denial-based programming, or your lying eyes?
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    From the AP report:
    Dan Rather giving evidence on CBS news that the FBI was involved in building the bomb and setting up the 1993 World Trade Center bombing:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXBmmf9F4rw

    Yeah, Dan Blather is a reliable source when he suits your agenda, but everything else he says that refutes 9/11 "truth" makes him a shill right?

    And the New York Times, reporting the same story:

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...53C1A965958260
    Report from Salon.com on how the State Department interceded to allow the "Underwear Bomber" to get on Flight 253:
    http://open.salon.com/blog/gordon_wa...derwear_bomber

    You're kidding right? Salon.com??? Well since you get your reality from infowars.com I suppose all the other facts are easily ignored.

    Yeah, you know, you're probably right... Deep down you know I am, and so is everyone else who calls you an idiot to your face.

    When the sworn testimonies before the House Committee on Homeland Security, and nationally know reporters uncover recordings made of the FBI entrapping and equipping the 1993 bombers, and state department, DOD and intelligence community members admit to these things under oath during investigations, we should only NATURALLY assume that it's all just one big conspiracy theory being perpetuated by wing-nuts. Because we all know that the "conspiracy theorists" are so all-powerful that they can force government officials to admit to things that aren't true, and can fabricate Congressional Testimonies, official court transcripts, and the FBI's own surveillance recordings...

    Do you even READ the news? Why would I? You're the one who insists IT'S ALL PROPAGANDA Does your memory span last longer than it takes to empty an M-16 magaine, or has your brain been so fried and twisted by PTSD and psychotropics like Effexor, Zoloft, and various SSRIs forced on soldiers by the DOD that you can't remember what day it is without looking at your "Help for Heros" calendar between wanks:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...y-charity.html

    I don't even know what you're ranting about. I did my time like millions of other soldiers, sailors, marines and flyboys (and flygirls). The infintesimal amount of them who report side effects of PTSD, and were prescribed any dope account for the same percentage of the population that absorbs welfare, and subscribes to asinine conspiracy theories.

    Believe what you will. Personally, I rely on the words that come out of the mouths of these duplicitous federal villains when they consistently admit that, yes, most of the "attacks" over the last 10 years have, in fact, been "inside jobs".

    Who are you going to believe? Your denial-based programming, or your lying eyes?
    You believe what you want to as well. Personally I rely on what I know to be true from experience, and place little if any regard for statements taken out of context. Especially when these statements are made in front of leftist "journalists" who's agenda begins and ends with demoralizing the population, and promoting the idea that our enemies either simply don't exist, or are actually the good guys.

    If there is a funny part in all of this, the same people you excoriate as the elitist enemy of the republic are the same leftist scumbags who promote the idea that the country is under their total control.

    If you had the slightest grip on reality you might come to terms with the fact that in even the most secure locked down prisons in the world (ours), the inmates still find ways to fashion weapons, acquire drugs, and escape from time to time.

    In your paralyzed "thinking", you're already in prison. You live in a world where you believe these elitist scumbags can track your moves, monitor your phones and internet posts (as if they would care too) and manipulate the world around you so that everything the rest of us see is some sort of false reality, while YOU stand alone on this forum trying to save the rest of us from our "programming". You're either a useful idiot, or an average one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrayingForWar View Post
    You believe what you want to as well. Personally I rely on what I know to be true from experience, and place little if any regard for statements taken out of context. Especially when these statements are made in front of leftist "journalists" who's agenda begins and ends with demoralizing the population, and promoting the idea that our enemies either simply don't exist, or are actually the good guys.

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...811858,00.html

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30748260...h-health_care/

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004...secondworldwar

    http://www.publicintegrity.org/articles/entry/2082/

    http://www.theglobalreport.org/?arti...ction=archives

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...730119,00.html


    All you do is call me names, and attack my sanity.

    I post links to videos of congressional testimonies, official transcripts, affidavits, etc.

    Let the people decide...
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    Conspiracy nuts constantly rail against the media, claiming it's controlled by whatever enemy they're demonizing at the time. Jews, billionaires, liberals, neo-cons etc. I thought the media were all in on the cover up, now you expect me to put any stock at all into some editorial opinonated hit pieces from leftist rags and blogs?

    I'm not questioning your sanity, I'm flat out calling you a lunatic.
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