oliverclotheshoff
Regular Member
kind of along the lines of my ice fishing post can i bomb around on my property on various vehicles without having to put it back in the case
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Private property
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Brass Magnet
Founder's Club Member
And the same answer.......
Wisconsin Stat. 167.31 Does not appear to make any exceptions for where the vehicle is located. Only that it is defined as a "vehicle" by WSS 340.01
Wisconsin Stat. 167.31 Does not appear to make any exceptions for where the vehicle is located. Only that it is defined as a "vehicle" by WSS 340.01
oliverclotheshoff
Regular Member
i found the answer in the exceptions paragraph
5. The vehicle is being operated entirely on private property
and is not being operated in the right−of−way of any highway.
5. The vehicle is being operated entirely on private property
and is not being operated in the right−of−way of any highway.
Brass Magnet
Founder's Club Member
Good catch!
I've got to study it a little closer though. In the same area it says something about how you can not be engaged in hunting, then seems to contridict itself with #5.
oliverclotheshoff
Regular Member
but if your open carrying with a hand gun that doesnt meet the minimum barrel length you cant be hunting because it is agains the law
Brass Magnet
Founder's Club Member
Agreed; but it appears there may be some Catch 22's in here.....
phred
Regular Member
The whole thing
All 5 conditions must be met
167.31(4)(bt)
(bt) Subsection (2) (b) does not apply to the placement, possession, or transportation of an unloaded firearm in or on a vehicle if all of the following apply:
167.31(4)(bt)1.
1. The vehicle is a self-propelled motor vehicle with 4 rubber-tired wheels.
167.31(4)(bt)2.
2. The vehicle is not certified by the manufacturer for on-road use.
167.31(4)(bt)3.
3. The vehicle is not an all-terrain vehicle, as defined in s. 340.01 (2g).
167.31(4)(bt)4.
4. The vehicle is being used to transport individuals involved in sport shooting activities at sport shooting ranges, as defined in s. 895.527 (1), and is not being used to transport individuals involved in hunting.
167.31(4)(bt)5.
5. The vehicle is being operated entirely on private property and is not being operated in the right-of-way of any highway.
All 5 conditions must be met
167.31(4)(bt)
(bt) Subsection (2) (b) does not apply to the placement, possession, or transportation of an unloaded firearm in or on a vehicle if all of the following apply:
167.31(4)(bt)1.
1. The vehicle is a self-propelled motor vehicle with 4 rubber-tired wheels.
167.31(4)(bt)2.
2. The vehicle is not certified by the manufacturer for on-road use.
167.31(4)(bt)3.
3. The vehicle is not an all-terrain vehicle, as defined in s. 340.01 (2g).
167.31(4)(bt)4.
4. The vehicle is being used to transport individuals involved in sport shooting activities at sport shooting ranges, as defined in s. 895.527 (1), and is not being used to transport individuals involved in hunting.
167.31(4)(bt)5.
5. The vehicle is being operated entirely on private property and is not being operated in the right-of-way of any highway.
oliverclotheshoff
Regular Member
who pissed in my cherios damn i really should learn to speak lawyer
man i thought i had something here
man i thought i had something here
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phred
Regular Member
Ya, at one time I thought I did too. I asked a DNR warden about this exemption at a Hunter Safety session last year. He said the exemptions were lobbied into place so that shooting ranges could haul people around to various stations w/o the need for cases.
I guess a squeaky wheel got greased.
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Brass Magnet
Founder's Club Member
Crap!
My golf cart / NEV is certified for on-road use. But; if I exchange the windshield for a non-DOT approved split windshield I wonder if I can get away with it.
My golf cart / NEV is certified for on-road use. But; if I exchange the windshield for a non-DOT approved split windshield I wonder if I can get away with it.
anmut
Regular Member
2. The vehicle is not certified by the manufacturer for on-road use.
According to most manufacturers, as soon as you modify the vehicle you lose the manufactures approval for on-road use.
According to most manufacturers, as soon as you modify the vehicle you lose the manufactures approval for on-road use.
oliverclotheshoff
Regular Member
so can a modified 4 wheeler not be a four wheeler anymore (its a stretch)
Brendon .45
Regular Member
A lot of automotive aftermarket equipment carries the disclaimer of "for off-road use only" or something similar, unless it actually carries a DOT approval, and in CA a CARB exemption as well.
MKEgal
Regular Member
As with many other activities on private property, what the police don't know about they can't ticket you for.
So yes, it's illegal. It's also a stupid law that will (hopefully) soon be repealed.
Know the law, make your own decision about whether or not to follow it, esp. on your own property.
IMHO as long as you're not harming anyone, you're free to do what you want. (Gee, that sounds very Wiccan, doesn't it?)
So yes, it's illegal. It's also a stupid law that will (hopefully) soon be repealed.
Know the law, make your own decision about whether or not to follow it, esp. on your own property.
IMHO as long as you're not harming anyone, you're free to do what you want. (Gee, that sounds very Wiccan, doesn't it?)
oliverclotheshoff
Regular Member
i always have carried while running around on my property in whatever vehicle i was in truck wheeler snowbubble but i will be a bit more cautious to my surrounding when i do for now on or maybei will just buy a zippered case
thanks for all the info and good talking points
thanks for all the info and good talking points
JerryD
Regular Member
If they want to write me or arrest me for carrying in my vehicle on my property or on my lawn mower I will gladly be the test case that goes all the way.
BROKENSPROKET
Regular Member
Boom Chik A Chick A Boom. I am with you on that. On my property with no criminal intent, come and get me.
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oliverclotheshoff
Regular Member
sprocket and jerry i agree with you on that forget the zipper case
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oak1971
Regular Member
I will continue to do what I please on my own property.
Tweety
Banned
Seems like that is what this guy is doing:
http://www.weau.com/home/headlines/111420874.html
I think we needs to just respect peoples property rights all together. If it is their property then no one can say what goes on within the property lines except the owner. Well that is as long as it does not physically effect anyone outside the property lines that is. Personally I could care less what people do on their own property.
http://www.weau.com/home/headlines/111420874.html
I think we needs to just respect peoples property rights all together. If it is their property then no one can say what goes on within the property lines except the owner. Well that is as long as it does not physically effect anyone outside the property lines that is. Personally I could care less what people do on their own property.