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    WTF is wrong with Orange County

    Teemgreen 99 and myself have been doing alot of leg work here in the county trying to find some 2A friendly establishments and have located a couple of Potential places that will host an OC gathering.
    So now we are moving on to rallying some troops but the couple of people we have talked to are only intrested in there own agenda in there own city, so I did a search of this web site and found a dozen people who are registered and e-mailed them, and guess what not a single reply! How can the Southbay and Sandiego have such great activity, in there area and we can't even have a meeting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC KIMBER View Post
    Teemgreen 99 and myself have been doing alot of leg work here in the county trying to find some 2A friendly establishments and have located a couple of Potential places that will host an OC gathering.
    So now we are moving on to rallying some troops but the couple of people we have talked to are only intrested in there own agenda in there own city, so I did a search of this web site and found a dozen people who are registered and e-mailed them, and guess what not a single reply! How can the Southbay and Sandiego have such great activity, in there area and we can't even have a meeting?
    Don't worry too much man. Getting people to volunteer to show up or help with things is VERY difficult, despite the appearance of a very active movement, most of the work is done by a very small group of individuals in all areas.

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    John Wayne has left the neighborhood. Welcome to the world of apathy and self interest.

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    Some people simply aren't interested in group open carry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC KIMBER View Post
    Teemgreen 99 and myself have been doing alot of leg work here in the county trying to find some 2A friendly establishments and have located a couple of Potential places that will host an OC gathering.
    So now we are moving on to rallying some troops but the couple of people we have talked to are only intrested in there own agenda in there own city, so I did a search of this web site and found a dozen people who are registered and e-mailed them, and guess what not a single reply! How can the Southbay and Sandiego have such great activity, in there area and we can't even have a meeting?
    Yeah I PM-ed 4 or 5 over the last 2 to2 1/2 months and never got a reply either.
    In other states maybe this is why they are having more success in the OC movement.
    More PR to, from the local friendly media. Pro-OC. Its sad

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    Some people simply aren't interested in group open carry...

    I guess some people have not heard the saying United we stand and divided we fall!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin47 View Post
    Yeah I PM-ed 4 or 5 over the last 2 to2 1/2 months and never got a reply either.
    In other states maybe this is why they are having more success in the OC movement.
    More PR to, from the local friendly media. Pro-OC. Its sad Robin47
    Robin47, if possible, can you meet with ConditionThree and I if we can keep it closer to you, or can you make it into Redding?
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    The words of a tyrant: I never entertain opposing opinions. I am always right.

    Socialism is just another dirty word for totalitarianism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC KIMBER View Post
    I guess some people have not heard the saying United we stand and divided we fall!
    I have. Check my thread on writing your congressmen/women and senators.
    The words of a tyrant: I never entertain opposing opinions. I am always right.

    Socialism is just another dirty word for totalitarianism.

    "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." -Patrick Henry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Grump View Post
    John Wayne has left the neighborhood. Welcome to the world of apathy and self interest.
    I have a painting, done by a friend of mine, that looks very similar to your avatar.
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    The words of a tyrant: I never entertain opposing opinions. I am always right.

    Socialism is just another dirty word for totalitarianism.

    "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." -Patrick Henry

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    any unincorporated areas of Orange County where the county has not banned all shooting?

    If so, you can hold an event there and police have no e-check power as you can carry loaded there.

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    I have a close friend who lives in Glendora. I emailed him a link to this thread. Hopefully he'll contact you.

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    Simmer down there buddy. Just replied today. Part of it has to do with the fact for some reason I'm not receiving e-mail notifications of PMs.
    Gun control isn't about guns -- it is about control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbpeck View Post
    I have a close friend who lives in Glendora. I emailed him a link to this thread. Hopefully he'll contact you.
    Glendora is Inland Empire area, quite a long drive from OC, FYI.
    Gun control isn't about guns -- it is about control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demnogis View Post
    Simmer down there buddy. Just replied today. Part of it has to do with the fact for some reason I'm not receiving e-mail notifications of PMs.
    Wow there is life out there I'll add you to the list of the undead. PM inbound

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    any unincorporated areas of Orange County where the county has not banned all shooting?

    If so, you can hold an event there and police have no e-check power as you can carry loaded there.
    Mike, the whole county is a suburb we are lucky if we have a park, one city blends into the next with open spaces far and few.

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    If you are having trouble with PM's, click on settings/general settings. You can select an e-mail notice or popup when you get a PM.

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    figure this out without a map

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    Sec. 3-2-1. - Discharge of firearms.

    It shall be unlawful for any person, other than a peace officer acting in his official line of duty, to shoot, fire or discharge, or for any person, firm or corporation to cause or permit to be shot, fired or discharged, in the unincorporated territory lying within the boundaries of any district hereinafter in this article defined, any rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver or firearm, except when it may be necessary so to do to protect life or property, or to destroy or kill any predatory or dangerous animal.

    Code 1961, 32.011)

    Sec. 3-2-2. - District No. 1 (Rossmoor area).

    All that portion of the unincorporated territory of the County of Orange within the following described boundaries:

    Beginning at the intersection of the North boundary of Ocean Avenue with the Los Angeles-Orange County lines; thence in a Northerly direction along said County line to its intersection with the South boundary of Katella Avenue; thence along the South boundary of Katella Avenue, Easterly, to its intersection with the West boundary of Los Alamitos Boulevard; thence South along said West boundary of Los Alamitos Boulevard to the North boundary of Ocean Avenue; thence Westerly along said North boundary of Ocean Avenue to the point of beginning.

    Code 1961, 32.011.1)

    Sec. 3-2-3. - District No. 2 (Costa Mesa and Newport area).

    All that portion of the unincorporated territory of the County of Orange within the following described boundaries:

    Beginning at the intersection of the center lines of those certain public highways in Orange County, California, commonly known as Palisades Road and Newport Boulevard, and running thence from said point of beginning, Southwesterly along said Newport Boulevard to an intersection with the Easterly prolongation of the Northerly line of Fairview Farms, as shown on a map thereof recorded in Book 8, page 71, Miscellaneous Maps, Records of Orange County, California; thence, Westerly along said prolongation, and said Northerly line of Fairview Farms, to the Northwest corner of Tract No. 653, as shown on a map thereof recorded in Book 19, page 42, Miscellaneous Maps, Records of Orange County, California; thence in a general Southwesterly direction, following along the Westerly line of said Tract No. 653, to the Southwest corner of Lot 74, said Fairview Farms; thence, Easterly along the South line of said Fairview Farms to the Northwest corner of Tract 612, as shown on a map thereof recorded in Book 20, pages 1 and 2, Miscellaneous Maps, Records of Orange County, California; thence, Southerly, following along the Westerly line of said Tract No. 612, and the prolongations thereof, to the center line of Nineteenth Street as shown on said map of Tract No. 612; thence, Westerly and Southerly, following along the Northerly and Westerly line of the Newport Mesa Tract, as shown on a map thereof recorded in Book 5, page 1, Miscellaneous Maps, Records of Orange County, California, to the most Northerly corner of Tract No. 463, as shown on a map thereof recorded in Book 32, pages 2 and 3, Miscellaneous Maps, Records of Orange County, California; thence Southwesterly, along the Northwesterly line of said Tract No. 463 to the Northwesterly line of Dartmouth Place as shown on said map of Tract No. 463; thence South to an intersection with the Northerly boundary line of the City of Newport Beach; thence, in a general Easterly direction, following along the Northerly boundary line of the City of Newport Beach, to an angle point in the said Northerly boundary line of the City of Newport Beach at the most Northeasterly corner of that certain area commonly known as Bayshore Camp, said angle point being in the Westerly line of Newport Bay as described in decree of the Superior Court of the State of California, in and for the County of Orange, in Case No. 20436; thence, in a general Northeasterly direction following along the line described in said decree to an intersection with the Northwesterly prolongation of the ordinary low tide line along the Southwesterly slope of that certain dyke constructed across the upper end of Newport Bay, said intersection being between Stations 68 and 69 as described in said Case No. 20436; thence, in a general Southeasterly direction, following along the said ordinary low tide line and prolongations thereof to the Easterly line of Newport Bay as described in said decree in Case No. 20436; thence in a general Southerly direction, following along said line described in decree in Case No. 20436, to Station No. 17 of the line described in said decree; thence, South, 40.00 feet, more or less, to the Northeasterly line of the right-of-way of that certain highway commonly known as Coast Highway as now established; thence, in a general Southeasterly direction following along said Northeasterly line of the right-of-way for Coast Highway to an intersection with the Northerly boundary line of the City of Newport Beach; thence, Northeasterly and Southeasterly, following along said boundary line, to an intersection with the Easterly line of the right-of-way of that certain highway commonly known as MacArthur Boulevard as now established; thence, in a general Northerly direction, following along said Easterly right-of-way line to the Northerly line of the right-of-way of that certain highway commonly known as San Joaquin Road as now established; thence, Westerly, along said Northerly right-of-way line to the Northeasterly line of the right-of-way of that certain highway commonly known as Palisades Road; thence, Northwesterly, along said Northeasterly right-of-way line and said line and said line produced, to the center line of the above-mentioned Newport Boulevard; thence Southwesterly, along said center line, 50.00 feet to point of beginning.

    Code 1961, 32.011.2)

    Sec. 3-2-4. - District No. 3 (South Laguna and San Juan Capistrano coastal area).

    All that portion of the unincorporated territory of the County of Orange within the following described boundaries:

    Beginning at the one-quarter section corner on the West line of fractional Section 19, Township 7 South, Range 8 West, S.B.B.&M., said point of beginning being an angle point in the exterior boundary line of the City of Laguna Beach, and running thence, from said point of beginning Easterly along one-quarter section line to the Northeast corner of Lot 6 of said fractional Section 19; then Southerly along lot lines to the Southeast corner of Lot 5 of said fractional Section 19; thence Westerly along section lines to the one-quarter section corner on the North line of Section 30, said township and range; thence Southerly along one-quarter section lines to the Northwest corner of Lot 3 of fractional Section 31, said township and range; thence Easterly along lot lines to the Southeast corner of Lot 3 of fractional Section 32, said township and range; said point being in the Westerly boundary line of Rancho Niguel; thence Southerly, Easterly and Southerly, following said boundary line of Rancho Niguel to the South line of fractional Section 5, Township 8 South, Range 8 West, S.B.B.&M.; thence Easterly along said South line of Section 5 in Rancho Niguel to the Southeast corner of said Section 5; thence Southerly along section lines to the one-quarter section line running East and West through the center of Section 9, in said Rancho Niguel; thence, Easterly along one-quarter section line to the East line of fractional Section 9 of said Township 8 South, Range 8 West; thence Southerly along section lines to the one-quarter section corner on the West line of Section 15, said Township 8 South, Range 8 West; then Easterly along one-quarter section lines to the Southwest corner of Lot 4 of fractional Section 14 in said Township 8 South, Range 8 West; thence Northerly along lot lines to the North line of said fractional Section 14; thence Easterly along section lines to the one-quarter section line running North and South through the center of Section 13, said Township 8 South, Range 8 West; thence Southerly along one-quarter section line to the South line of said Section 13 in Rancho Boca de La Playa; thence Easterly along section lines to the one-quarter section line running North and South through the center of Section 19 of said Rancho Boca de La Playa; thence Southerly along one-quarter section line to the Northeasterly line of Tract No. 1127, as shown on a map thereof recorded in Book 36, pages 7 to 12 inclusive, of Miscellaneous Maps, Records of Orange County, California; thence Southeasterly along subdivision and property lines to the Westerly extension of the Northerly boundary line of the City of San Clemente; thence Easterly along said extension to the Westerly boundary line of the City of San Clemente; thence Southerly along said Westerly line to the ordinary high tide line of the Pacific Ocean; thence in a general Northwesterly direction following along said ordinary high tide line to the Easterly boundary line of the City of Laguna Beach; thence in a general Northerly direction following along said Easterly boundary line of the City of Laguna Beach to the point of beginning.

    Code 1961, 32.011.3)

    Sec. 3-2-5. - District No. 5 (North Bolsa Bay area).

    All that portion of the unincorporated territory of the County of Orange, State of California, as described as follows:

    The North one-half (N) of the Northeast one-quarter (NE) of Section 29 and the North one-half (N) of the Northwest one-quarter (NW) of Section 28, all in Township 5 South, Range 11 West, San Bernardino Meridian.

    Code 1961, 32.011.4)

    Secs. 3-2-63-2-10. - Reserved.

    Sec. 3-2-11. - District No. 6 (Santiago Creek, East Cerro Villa Heights and Orange Park Acres area).

    All that portion of the unincorporated territory of the County of Orange, State of California, described as follows:

    Parcel No. 1: Those portions of Sections 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 and 27, Township 4 South, Range 9 West, S.B.M., bounded on the South by the city limits of the City of Orange and by the North line of Chapman Avenue; bounded on the East by a line that bears N. 38;deg; 32' 55" W., 1757.23 feet and N. 19;deg; 21' 00" W., 662.50 feet as shown on map filed in Book 25, page 41, of Records of Surveys, Records of Orange County, California, and by the South line of Tract No. 918 as shown on a map recorded in Book 28, pages 41 through 43, of Miscellaneous Maps, Records of said County, and by the South line of Tract No. 931 as shown on a map recorded in Book 29, page 26, of said Miscellaneous Maps, bounded on the East by the city limits of the City of Orange and bounded on the North and West by the city limits of Orange as said limits extend Northerly and Easterly from Chapman Avenue.

    Parcel No. 2: Those portions of Sections 14 and 23, Township 4 South, Range 9 West, S.B.M., bounded on the East and Southeast by the city limits of the City of Orange, bounded on the North and West by the city limits of the City of Villa Park and bounded on the South and Southwest by the Northerly and Easterly right-of-way line of Santiago Boulevard.

    Parcel No. 3: Those portions of Sections 14 and 13, Township 4 South, Range 9 West, S.B.M., bounded on the South and West by the city limits of the City of Orange, bounded on the North by the city limits of the City of Orange and by the North line of the West half (W) of the West half (W) of said Section 13 and bounded on the East by the East line of the West half (W) of the West half (W) of said Section 13.

    Parcel No. 4: Those portions of Sections 13, 23 and 24, Township 4 South, Range 9 West, S.B.M., bounded on the East, South, West and North by the city limits of the City of Orange and also bounded on the North by the Northerly right-of-way line of Windes Drive.

    Code 1961, 32.011.5)

    Sec. 3-2-12. - District No. 7 (Trabuco Canyon and Holy Jim Canyon area).

    All that portion of the unincorporated territory of the County of Orange, State of California, described as follows:

    Beginning at the Southwest corner of Section 5, Township 6 South, Range 6 West, S.B.B.&M., as per government survey; thence Northerly, along the West line of said Section 5, to the Southwest corner of Lot 5 of said Section 6; thence Easterly, along the South line of Lots 5 and 4 of said Section 5, to the Southeast corner of said Lot 4; thence Northerly to the North line of said Section 5; thence Easterly, along the North line of said Section 5 and the South line of Section 32, Township 5 South, Range 6 West, to the South one-quarter corner of said Section 32; thence, Northerly, along the North-South one-quarter section line of said Section 32 to the center line of said Section 32; thence, Easterly, along the East-West one-quarter Section line of said Section 32 and Section 33, said township and range, to the East line of said Section 33; thence, Southerly, along the East line of said Section 33, to the Southeast corner thereof; thence, Easterly, along the South line of Section 34, said township and range, and the North line of Section 4, Township 6 South, Range 6 West, to the Northeast corner of said Section 4; thence, Southerly along the East line of said Section 4, to the Southeast corner of said Section 4; thence, Westerly, along the South line of said Section 4 and Section 5, said township and range, to the point of beginning.

    Code 1961, 32.011.6)

    Sec. 3-2-13. - District Nos. 8, 9 (Silverado and Modjeska Canyon area).

    All that portion of the unincorporated territory of the County of Orange, State of California, described as follows:

    (District No. 8Silverado area): Beginning at the West one-quarter corner of Section 9, Township 5 South, Range 7 West, San Bernardino Base and Meridian, as per government survey plat approved October 11, 1895, U.S. Surveyor General's Office; thence, Easterly, along the East-West one-quarter section lines of Sections 9, 10 and 11 of said township and range, to the East one-quarter corner of said Section 11; thence, Southerly, along the East line of said Section 11 and the East line of Section 14, said township and range, to the Southeast corner of the Northeast one-quarter (NE) of the Northeast one-quarter (NE) of said Section 14; thence, Westerly, along the quarter-quarter section lines of Sections 14, 15, 16 and 17 of said township and range, to the Southwest corner of the Northwest one-quarter (NW) of the Northwest one-quarter (NW) of said Section 17; thence, Northerly, along the West line of said Section 17, to the center line of Silverado Canyon Road as now established; thence, in a general Northeasterly direction to the West one-quarter corner of said Section 9 and the point of beginning, and, in addition to the foregoing area, those areas Easterly and Westerly thereof lying within 100 yards Northerly and Southerly of Silverado Canyon Road, as said road presently exists, from the U.S. Forest Service gate to the West to 100 yards beyond the uppermost dam to the East.

    (District No. 9Modjeska area): Beginning at the Northwest corner of Lot 1, fractional Section 29, Township 5 South, Range 7 West, San Bernardino Base and Meridian, as per government survey plat approved October 11, 1895, U.S. Surveyor General's Office; thence, Easterly, along the North line of said fractional Section 29 and Section 28, said township and range, to the Northeast corner of the Northwest one-quarter (NW) of the Northeast one-quarter (NE) of said Section 28; thence, Southerly, along the quarter-quarter section line of said Section 28, to the Southeast corner of the Northwest one-quarter (NW) of the Southeast one-quarter (SE) of said Section 28; thence, Westerly, along the quarter-quarter section line of said Section 28, to the West line of said Section 28; thence, Southerly, along said West line, to the Southwest corner of said Section 28; thence, Westerly, along the South line of said fractional Section 29, to the forest boundary of the Cleveland National Forest; thence, Northwesterly, along said forest boundary, to the West line of said fractional Section 29; thence, Northerly along said West line of fractional Section 29, to the Northwest corner of said section and the point of beginning.

    Code 1961, 32.011.7)

    Sec. 3-2-14. - District No. 10 (San Juan and Hot Springs Special Use Cabins Tract area).

    All that portion of the unincorporated territory of Orange County, California, being portions of Sections 27, 28, 33 and 34, Township 6 South, Range 6 West, S.B.B.&M. and a portion of Sections 3 and 4, Township 7 South, Range 6 West, S.B.B.&M. and a portion of Rancho Mission Viejo described as follows:

    Beginning at the Southeast corner of the West one-half (W) of Lot 1, Section 34, Township 6 South, Range 6 West, San Bernardino Base and Meridian; thence, Northerly along the East line of said West one-half (W) to the North line of said Lot 1; thence, Westerly along said North line of the West line of said Section 34; thence, Northerly along said West line to the South line of the North one-half (N) of the Northwest one-quarter (NW) of the Southwest one-quarter (SW); thence, Easterly along said South line to the East line of the West one-half (W) of the West one-half (W) of said Section 34; thence, Northerly along said East line and the East line of the West one-half (W) of the West one-half (W) of Section 27, Township 6 South, Range 6 West, S.B.B.&M. to the North line of the South one-half (S) of the Southwest one-quarter (SW) of the Southwest one-quarter (SW) of said Section 27; thence, Westerly along said North line to the East line of Section 28, Township 6 South, Range 6 West, S.B.B.&M.; thence, Northerly along said East line to the North line of the Southeast one-quarter (SE) of the Southeast one-quarter (SE); thence, Westerly along said North line to the East line of the West one-half (W) of the Northeast one-quarter (NE) of the southeast one-quarter (SE); thence, Northerly along said East line to the North line of the South one-half (S) of the North one-half (N) of the Southeast one-quarter (SE); thence, Westerly along said North line to the East line of the West one-half (W) of the West one-half (W) of the Southeast one-quarter (SE); thence, Northerly along said East line to the North line of said Southeast one-quarter (SE); thence, Westerly along said North line and the North line of Lots 7 and 8 of said Section 28 to the Northwest corner of the East one-half (E) of said Lot 8; thence, Southerly, along the West line of said East one-half (E) of said Lot 8 and its Southerly prolongation to the North line of Lot 5 of fractional Section 33, Township 6 South, Range 6 West, S.B.B.&M.; thence, Westerly along the North line of said Lot 5 and the North line of Lot 4 of said fractional Section 33 to a point 500 feet Westerly, as measured along said North line, from the Northeast corner of said Lot 4; thence, Southerly in a direct line to a point on the South line of fractional Section 33, Township 6 South, Range 6 West as shown on a map filed in Book 9, page 9, of Records of Surveys, Records of Orange County, California, said point being 900 feet Easterly, measured at right angles from the Southwest corner of said fractional Section 33; thence, continuing Southerly along a line parallel with and 900 feet Easterly as measured at right angles from the West line of fractional Section 4, Township 7 South, Range 6 West as shown on said record of survey to the intersection of a line parallel with and 2625 feet Southerly as measured at right angles from the North line of said fractional Section 4; thence, Easterly along last mentioned parallel line to the intersection of a line parallel with and 1800 feet Easterly as measured at right angles from the West line of said fractional Section 4; thence, Southerly along last mentioned parallel line to the intersection of a line parallel with and 655 feet Northerly as measured at right angles from the South line of said fractional Section 4; thence, Easterly along last mentioned parallel line to the intersection of a line parallel with and 2700 feet Easterly as measured at right angles from the West line of said fractional Section 4; thence, Southerly along last mentioned parallel line to the South line of said fractional Section 4; thence, Easterly along said South line to the East line of the Rancho Mission Viejo, said East line also being the West line of Lot 5 of fractional Section 4, Township 7 South, Range 6 West, S.B.B.&M.; thence, Northerly along said West line to the South line of the North one-half (N) of said Lot 5; thence, Easterly along said South line and its Easterly prolongation to the West line of Section 3, Township 7 South, Range 6 West, S.B.B.&M.; thence, Northerly along said West line to the South line of the North one-half (N) of the Southwest one-quarter (SW); thence, Easterly along said South line to the East line of the West one-half (W) of the Northwest one-quarter (NW) of the Southwest one-quarter (SW); thence, Northerly along said East line to the South line of the North one-half (N) of the Northwest one-quarter (NW) of the Southwest one-quarter (SW); thence, Easterly along said South line to the East line of the Northwest one-quarter (NW) of the Southwest one-quarter (SW); thence, Northerly along said East line to the North line of said Southwest one-quarter (SW); thence, Easterly along said North line to East line of the West one-half (W) of the West one-half (W) of Lot 6; thence, Northerly along said East line of the East line of the West one-half (W) of the West one-half (W) of Lot 3 of said Section 3 to the South line of Section 34, Township 6 South, Range 6 West, S.B.B.&M.; thence, Westerly along said South line to the Southeast corner of the West one-half (W) of Lot 1 of said Section 34 and the point of beginning.

    Code 1961, 32.011.8)

    Sec. 3-2-15. - District No. 11 (Black Star Canyon area).

    All that portion of the unincorporated territory of the County of Orange, State of California, described as follows:

    Beginning at the point of intersection of Santiago Canyon and Silverado Canyon Roads; thence Northerly and Easterly along the Black Star Canyon Road to the Riverside County line, including a strip of land 100 yards wide on both sides of Black Star Canyon Road from its aforesaid point of beginning at the Santiago Canyon and Silverado Canyon Roads to its aforesaid point of termination in Orange County at the Riverside County line.

    Code 1961, 32.011.9)

    Secs. 3-2-163-2-20. - Reserved.

    Sec. 3-2-21. - Shotgun useRestricted areas.

    It shall be unlawful for any person other than a peace officer acting in his official line of duty to shoot, fire or discharge, or for any person, firm or corporation to cause or permit to be shot, fired or discharged, in the unincorporated territory lying within the boundaries of any district hereinafter in this section defined any rifle, pistol, revolver or firearm other than a shotgun, except when it may be necessary to do so to protect life or property or to destroy or kill any predatory or dangerous animal.

    (a)

    District No. 4 (Upper Newport Bay area). All that portion of unincorporated territory of the County of Orange within the following described boundaries:

    Beginning at the intersection of the Western line of Newport Bay, as described in decree of Superior Court of the State of California, in and for the County of Orange, in Case No. 20436, with the center line of Coast Highway, said intersection being between Stations No. 127 and 128 of said decree line, and running thence, from said point of beginning, in a general Northeasterly direction following along the line described in said decree to an intersection with the Northwesterly prolongation of the ordinary low tide line along the Southwesterly slope of that certain dyke constructed across the upper end of Newport Bay, said intersection being between Stations No. 68 and 69 as described in said Case No. 20436; thence in a general Southeasterly direction following along the said ordinary low tide line and the prolongations thereof, to the Easterly line of Newport Bay as described in said decree in Case No. 20436; thence in a general Southerly direction, following along said line described in decree in Case No. 20436, to Station No. 17 of the line described in said decree; thence South 90.00 feet, more or less, to the center line of Coast Highway as now established; thence in a general Westerly direction, following along said center line, to the point of beginning.

    (b)

    District No. 9 (Silverado and Modjeska area). All that portion of the unincorporated territory of the County of Orange, State of California, described as follows:

    Beginning at the West one-quarter corner of Section 11, Township 5 South, Range 7 West, San Bernardino Base and Meridian as per government survey plat approved October 11, 1895, U.S. Surveyor General's Office; thence, Easterly, along the East-West one-quarter section line of said Section 11, to the East one-quarter corner of said Section 11; thence, Southerly, along the East line of said Section 11 and the East line of Section 14, said township and range, to the Southeast corner of the North one-half (N) of the North one-half (N) of said Section 14; thence, Westerly along the South line of said North one-half (N) of the North one-half (N) of Section 14, to the southwest corner of said North one-half (N) of the North one-half (N); thence, Northerly, along the West line of said Section 14 and said Section 11, to the West one-quarter (W) corner of said Section 11 and the point of beginning.

    (c)

    District No. 12 (Portion of Santiago Creek). All that portion of the unincorporated territory of the County of Orange, State of California, described as follows:

    That portion of Section 25, Township 4 South, Range 9 West, S.B.M.; bounded on the North by the South line of Tract No. 918 as shown on a map recorded in Book 28, pages 41 through 43, of Miscellaneous Maps, Records of Orange County, California, and the South line and its Easterly extension of Tract No. 931 as shown on a map recorded in Book 29, page 26, of said miscellaneous maps; bounded on the East by the West line of Santiago Canyon Road; bounded on the Southeast by the Northwest line of Irvine's Subdivision as shown on a map recorded in Book 1, page 88, of said miscellaneous maps; bounded on the South by the North line of Chapman Avenue and bounded on the West by a line that bears N. 38;deg; 32' 55" W., 1757.23 feet and N. 19;deg; 21' 00" W., 662.50 feet as shown on a map filed in Book 25, page 41, of Records of Surveys, Records of said County.

    Code 1961, 32.012)

    Sec. 3-2-22. - Firing range.

    The provisions of this article shall not be deemed nor construed to prohibit, within any district created under the provisions of the article, the establishment or maintenance of any pistol, rifle or target range, nor to prohibit the discharge at any target thereon, by any person using such range, of any rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver or firearm in or on such range, in the event that such range is so installed, constructed, safeguarded, equipped and used as to adequately prevent any bullet, shot or missile from being projected beyond the confines of such range.

    Code 1961, 32.013)

    Sec. 3-2-23. - Firing over public highways.

    It shall be unlawful for any person, other than a peace officer acting in his official line of duty, to shoot, fire or discharge, or for any person, firm or corporation to cause or permit to be shot, fired or discharged, upon, along or across any public highway, road, street or way in the unincorporated territory of said County, any rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver or firearm, except when it may be necessary so to do in the protection of life or property.

    Code 1961, 32.014)

    Sec. 3-2-24. - Discharge of firearms.

    (a)

    It shall be unlawful for any person other than a licensed hunter engaged in the lawful pursuit of game during hunting season, or a peace officer acting in his official line of duty, to shoot, fire or discharge, or for any person, firm or corporation to cause or permit to be shot, fired or discharged, in the unincorporated territory hereinafter described in subsection (b) lying within the County of Orange but outside the district areas delineated by sections 3-2-2 through 3-2-15 of the Codified Ordinances of Orange County, any rifle, shotgun, pistol, revolver or firearms, except when it may be necessary to do so to protect life or property, or to destroy or kill any nonprotected or dangerous animal.

    Notwithstanding the foregoing, firearms may be discharged at an established firing, shooting or target range, or hunting or gun club, or on a properly constructed indoor or outdoor home range on private property, with the consent of the owner or operator thereof. For purposes of this section, a range shall be deemed properly constructed if it is so installed, constructed, safeguarded, equipped and used as to adequately eliminate the risk that any bullet, shot or missile will be projected beyond the confines of such range, when the range is properly used.

    (b)

    The territorial zone wherein subsection (a) is operative is described as follows:

    (1)

    Within two hundred (200) yards of the center of any stream bed;

    (2)

    Within two hundred (200) yards of the center of any road;

    (3)

    Within two hundred (200) yards of the perimeter of any public campground;

    (4)

    From, along or across any biking or riding trail;

    (5)

    From, along or across any river, stream, lake or other body of water.

    Code 1961, 32.015)

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    Why does Orange County not have a lot of OC activity? Not all OC'ers want a in-your-face LEO encounter with lawsuit to follow. Been there, done that. Not every OC'er wants to parade around a large mall or other high visibility location with the likelihood of negative encounter with a ninja security guard,and eventually a LEO charging in gun drawn in to "save the children". This OC'er does not want to be photographed by the press at a big public OC event . Getting e-checked/and body searched by a dude(which I find gross) is not my idea of a fun day. I hold a sensitive job ,and I value my privacy. Being in the newspaper , or on the TV news ranks at the bottom of the list of things I want to happen. Different people support the movement in different ways.

    I can tell you this, if some LEO violates my rights like has happened to some of you guys, he and his department will find themselves in Federal Court. I have the financial means to seek redress,and I will. I have sued under "1983" civil rights violation(s) before and have received a 6 figure payment for my troubles from a local police department, including court ordered full payment of my attorneys fees, besides payment of the judgment. I know what it will take to civilly win, and hope I never have to do it again. I will always strive to avoid a negative contact with LEO's, and most of them are not looking to play John Wayne and prone you out on the ground. A good attitude goes a long way, especially with the wise older ones. Keeping your mouth shut avoids unnecessary LEO problems. I only carry when a heightened threat may be present under a set of self defense guidelines I use. The only reason I carry when I choose to is for self defense only. That does not include publicity seeking gun protest to advance a political agenda, sorry.

    Under the current scheme of things, with the GFSZ, I normally find it much easier to have my customized shotgun in my car (I have 2 electric switch shotgun locks bolted to the car frame for both interior and trunk mounting)than worrying about if some unknown school is just around the corner in some town I don't know that might get me arrested with a handgun. For a short range defense weapon IMHO, shotguns are the best for day and night all round defense shooting. Remember, bringing a handgun to a shotgun fight will certainly shorten your life immediately.
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    I was down there from San Jose to visit my brother for Thanksgiving. OC'ed for a week solid no LEO encounter. Gonna be moving down there for work, if you guys dont know me I spoke with Walter at the Committee hearing in Sacramento with him to help defeat AB1934. I'll be working down there starting in about 3 weeks. I'll be a shop foreman for an autorepair shop near irvine spectrum so ill make sure you guys are all welcome. PM if you guys have any questions. CARRY ON!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oc4ever View Post
    Why does Orange County not have a lot of OC activity? Not all OC'ers want a in-your-face LEO encounter with lawsuit to follow. Been there, done that. Not every OC'er wants to parade around a large mall or other high visibility location with the likelihood of negative encounter with a ninja security guard,and eventually a LEO charging in gun drawn in to "save the children". This OC'er does not want to be photographed by the press at a big public OC event . Getting e-checked/and body searched by a dude(which I find gross) is not my idea of a fun day. I hold a sensitive job ,and I value my privacy. Being in the newspaper , or on the TV news ranks at the bottom of the list of things I want to happen. Different people support the movement in different ways.

    I can tell you this, if some LEO violates my rights like has happened to some of you guys, he and his department will find themselves in Federal Court. I have the financial means to seek redress,and I will. I have sued under "1983" civil rights violation(s) before and have received a 6 figure payment for my troubles from a local police department, including court ordered full payment of my attorneys fees, besides payment of the judgment. I know what it will take to civilly win, and hope I never have to do it again. I will always strive to avoid a negative contact with LEO's, and most of them are not looking to play John Wayne and prone you out on the ground. A good attitude goes a long way, especially with the wise older ones. Keeping your mouth shut avoids unnecessary LEO problems. I only carry when a heightened threat may be present under a set of self defense guidelines I use. The only reason I carry when I choose to is for self defense only. That does not include publicity seeking gun protest to advance a political agenda, sorry.

    Under the current scheme of things, with the GFSZ, I normally find it much easier to have my customized shotgun in my car (I have 2 electric switch shotgun locks bolted to the car frame for both interior and trunk mounting)than worrying about if some unknown school is just around the corner in some town I don't know that might get me arrested with a handgun. For a short range defense weapon IMHO, shotguns are the best for day and night all round defense shooting. Remember, bringing a handgun to a shotgun fight will certainly shorten your life immediately.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but the way I read this is you carry for your own selfish reasons and give nothing for the cause, and I QUOTE" The only reason I carry when I choose to is for self defense only. That does not include publicity seeking gun protest to advance a political agenda" If it were not for the politcal agenda you would not be able to carry at all. I hope the day never comes when you need a gun because I doubt you'll be able to run out to your car and grab your shotgun! As far as LEO interactions go I believe polite is the way to go. polite, polite, polite all the way to court if need be. I also have the means to defend myself in court and will do so if forced too, but this is not about suing and making cops look bad, I have nothing but respect for them. This is about our inalienable rights and not letting the goverment trample on them.

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    Just like to add that OCing does not imply you will have police encounters, much less negative police encounters.

    Out of ALL the events that have been VERY public that SBOC has held, only ONCE has anyone ever been e-checked at one of our events, and only about 3 times have police even been present, despite them being notified of our presence and fully aware of the situation.

    So I'd like to say to people concerned about their privacy and avoiding negative interactions to stop hiding behind "what-ifs" and get out there and support a right that is on the verge of disappearing in this state. I have a a very sensitive work position/career but I know that what I'm doing by standing up for our rights is all within the law. I just keep work at work and OC with OC.

    To someone who does not go out and OC regularly, reading the posts on this forum make it seem like every time a police officer is called something negative happens. But the fact is that most people rarely post the "non-event" open carry situations so what you see online is not representative of reality when it comes to number of negative LEO encounters / OC experience.

    I open carry EVERY DAY in Los Angeles County in extremely urban areas (liberal beach cities no less) and have only been e-checked once. I think that is a testament to the work all open carry groups have done in educating the public about their rights and that OC is legal so people don't freak out even if they don't like it.

    Where would we be if all gun owners just kept their shotguns hidden in their trunk and stayed out of the public eye? We'd probably have no more gun stores, we'd have complete bans on all ammo, and no shooting ranges, not to mention no CCW or OC.

    I only hope that those that choose to stay out of the light and avoid doing the dirty footwork support others who do stand up for their rights on behalf of everyone financially or otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hgreen View Post
    To someone who does not go out and OC regularly, reading the posts on this forum make it seem like every time a police officer is called something negative happens. But the fact is that most people rarely post the "non-event" open carry situations so what you see online is not representative of reality when it comes to number of negative LEO encounters / OC experience.
    This is why I have made an effort to post 'boring' open carry activity. This problem of people believing that OC would result in negative police encounters every time it is attempted is diffused when you include anecdotes of non-event carry. In four years of primarily solo OC activity I have had only 2 police encounters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC KIMBER View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but the way I read this is you carry for your own selfish reasons and give nothing for the cause...
    Count me in as selfish too. I carry for me and mine protections, not to further our rights. We already have a right to UOC, no need to get any more unloaded rights is there?

    I call, email, and write all the correct political people who really can affect my rights, including gun carry rights. But carrying alone or with a group will do nothing politically, only publically. I hand out the Carry Flyer, I educate as I go along. I have even rallied in support of UOC hundreds of miles from my house.

    But to only carry in groups to further a cause we already have a right to?

    Nah. I'm better off alone, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army View Post
    Count me in as selfish too. I carry for me and mine protections, not to further our rights. We already have a right to UOC, no need to get any more unloaded rights is there?

    I call, email, and write all the correct political people who really can affect my rights, including gun carry rights. But carrying alone or with a group will do nothing politically, only publically. I hand out the Carry Flyer, I educate as I go along. I have even rallied in support of UOC hundreds of miles from my house.

    But to only carry in groups to further a cause we already have a right to?

    Nah. I'm better off alone, thanks.
    That pretty much describes me...

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    All these lone wolves I don't even know how to respond to this! I thought this web site was about promoting OCing and to exchange ideas on how to advance the cause and stay out of jail but all I'm hearing is me, me, me. Saying that Ocing as a group will do nothing politically, only publically is a cop out last I checked this was still the United States of America and the public, does tell the politcians what to do. Everytime the Brady group protest us we get news coverage which brings more people to are cause, people that did not even know they had this right. But hey to each his own if you feel that sending off letters is all that you have it in you to do then so be it. some people run into a storm and some people run from them

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