The unborn are potential life...developing life...have to draw the line somewhere, I drew it prior to the second they draw fresh air into their lungs. The extreme right want to act as if an egg in itself is a potential life. Adoptions for eggs and fertilized eggs in a tube, give me a freaking break.
Potential life? So then, they are not yet living? Then tell me, how is it that they are parasites? Parasites are living organic lifeforms that feed off the host. If they are not living, then they are dead and are not able to feed.
Yes, you are right, a parasite is still alive, but a parasite none-the-less. A parasitic-humanoid MUST have a host to feed off of or it will die. It has something to do with the process of conception, incubation and eventual birth, if the host is fit to support the developing life and the developing life is strong enough to survive the incubation and birth process; or any outside influence that might obstruct the ability of the developing life from reaching live birth status, than that potential life become actual life.
New born infants MUST have a host to feed from, without a parent to feed them, they WILL die. This is true for atleast the first few years of a human baby's life. By your argument, that would make them parasites and are not 'life'.
"Unborn," what is that? At what point is the "unborn" "born?" The second they suck air...cord is cut...or is it when the doctor declares the child to be born, prior to that they are just unborn but born?
Unborn simply means pre-birth and born is post birth, duh.
Now your turn, break it down for me how you think that a potential life, post-conception, is actually a living breathing human being, and not more closely related to a parasite.
I did not say anything about them being humans or breathing. What I said was that they are living, just like parasites do. A parasite is, afterall, a lifeform. Just because they do not adhere to your ridiculous ideology of what life entails does not change that fact.
If anything I will acknowledge that the potential life is parasitic in nature but does not have all of nor maintain the attributes and habits of a parasite, eventually, at some point that parasitic-human becomes fully human and independent of its host...I would say the second it draw a breath of air either by the process of vaginal birth or any method of medical extraction which facilitates the breathing of oxygen.
So basically the breathing of oxygen is required for one to be considered human? Do you cease to be human when you hold your breath? Do you cease to be human when you stop breathing yet still have a pulse and brain activity? If one does not cease to be human at those times, then why would it matter whether or not the unborn takes it's first breath? Or is that just the argument you like to use so you can sleep at night while supporting abortion? Medically, a person is alive as long as they have a heart beat and brain activity, it would be murder to terminate such a life, with a very few exceptions of course. Why should it be any different for the unborn? Oh that's right, there's this little magical moment when a 'parasitic-humanoid' takes it's first breath and turns into a 'full, living breathing human', despite it's continued parasitic lifestyle.
BTW, don't say I wrote something that I didn't write. I did not say that unborn are not living (at least I do not see anywhere that I posted that), I said they are not life and that they are potential life. I should have been more specific though: The parasitic-humanoid has attributes and behaviors of a parasite as well as attributes and behaviors of a human being (undeveloped of course). The parasitic-humanoid is potential life. At the moment of conception the parasitic-humanoid is a potential human life. Human life is manifested--more specifically, human life is the final step of the life cycle of the parisitic-humanoid--when the parasitic-humanoid is released by natural or extracted by artificial means from its host and breaths independently it then is rendered via that process human life.
OH! I see. In your warped little world, life = human and the words are interchangeable. I'm sorry, I was going by the actual, real world definition of life. My bad.
I am not religious, but Adam was not alive until the breath of life was breathed into him. Prior to that, he was merely a humanoid vessel absent consciousness or independent self-sustaining life by the process of inhalation and exhalation. The unborn does have consciousness, but we will save that for a later discussion.
Adam was not alive until the breath of life was breathed into him
and he was turned from dust to flesh and given a pulse and brain activity. I am not religious either, I just happen to actually know what I am talking about.
Do you even understand half the words you are using? It would seem that you do not. It would also seem that you are using other people's arguments because they sound intelligent. Specifically, I am referencing your questions of the definition of 'born' and 'unborn.' Such questioning is quite cliche and often times repeated by people whom have no idea what they're talking about, but merely wish to appear intelligent.
