Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 26

Thread: Howdy! I'm done lurking.

  1. #1
    Regular Member Freedom First's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Kennewick, Wa.
    Posts
    850

    Howdy! I'm done lurking.

    Howdy forum, I've been visiting (lurking) for over a year now and I'm convinced. I've found lots of useful info and advice here. Honestly, I would have told you that OC was illegal before I ran across opencarry.org. Glad to know the truth.
    I'm planning on OCing this weekend but I can't figure out the holster and coat thing... Anybody have a solution other than CPL?
    The plan: Christmas lights and Griggs! Or maybe the other way around...
    Freedom can never be lost, only given away by ignorance, by choice, or at the point of a gun. Here in America we can still choose.

    Freedom First 1775

    "I aim to misbehave..." Malcolm Reynolds

  2. #2
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Somewhere over run with mud(s)
    Posts
    791
    depending on the type of holster some people find it easy to just tuck the jacket behind the firearm/holster combination.

    Or you could be like me and get a "neo-nazi skinhead" thigh rig and NEVER have to worry about if you are OCing or not...
    "And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee.
    Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command.
    So we shall flow a river forth to Thee and teeming with souls shall it ever be.
    E nomine Patri, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti."


    "If the rest of the world says: 'War,' I can only say: 'Very well. I do not want war, but no one, however peaceable, can live in peace if his neighbor intends to force a quarrel.'" - Adolf Hitler...

  3. #3
    Regular Member shad0wfax's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Spokane, Washington, USA
    Posts
    1,067
    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom First View Post
    Howdy forum, I've been visiting (lurking) for over a year now and I'm convinced. I've found lots of useful info and advice here. Honestly, I would have told you that OC was illegal before I ran across opencarry.org. Glad to know the truth.
    I'm planning on OCing this weekend but I can't figure out the holster and coat thing... Anybody have a solution other than CPL?
    The plan: Christmas lights and Griggs! Or maybe the other way around...
    Welcome to the forums. Try "the Virginia tuck" where you just wear your holster and firearm normally and tuck the loose end of your coat between your body and the firearm.

    And remember, no loaded firearms in vehicles without a cpl
    Last edited by shad0wfax; 12-08-2010 at 07:16 PM. Reason: added bold

  4. #4
    Regular Member Beretta92FSLady's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    In My Coffee
    Posts
    5,278
    Quote Originally Posted by devildoc5 View Post
    Or you could be like me and get a "neo-nazi skinhead" thigh rig and NEVER have to worry about if you are OCing or not...
    I think I seen you at the BBQ, your rig didn't look like something a neo-nazi skinhead would wear LOL.

    Welcome. I really hope that you enjoy your stay. You didn't have to lurk for so long, but people lurk until they are comfortable or have concluded that they generally agree with the right to OC.
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

  5. #5
    Regular Member cbpeck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Pasco, Washington, USA
    Posts
    407
    I run into this all the time and I've yet to find a practical solution. Freezing for the OC cause isn't practical, IMO. Here's the best I've come up with:

    I just CC when I'm wearing my coat to/from the car and then remove my jacket in an area where nobody will be alarmed, i.e. just inside a store's front door. I usually have my strong side facing a wall or display so that my gun isn't immediately visible as the coat comes off. Then the coat goes in the cart or baby stoller and I OC from there until I put my coat back on at the door. I'm 99% sure that what I'm doing is perfectly legal, but if someone disagrees please let me know. It isn't my desire to go around disregarding the law.

    Yes, I OC while pushing a stroller.

  6. #6
    Campaign Veteran gogodawgs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Federal Way, Washington, USA
    Posts
    5,666

    Welcome!



    I agree... I wear long sleeve shirts and sweaters but when it is wet or cold enough to have my jacket on, I simply CC. If I get out at a store, say Best Buy, then the jacket comes off and I am then OC until I go back outside again.


    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom First View Post
    Howdy forum, I've been visiting (lurking) for over a year now and I'm convinced. I've found lots of useful info and advice here. Honestly, I would have told you that OC was illegal before I ran across opencarry.org. Glad to know the truth.
    I'm planning on OCing this weekend but I can't figure out the holster and coat thing... Anybody have a solution other than CPL?
    The plan: Christmas lights and Griggs! Or maybe the other way around...
    Live Free or Die!

  7. #7
    Regular Member cbpeck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Pasco, Washington, USA
    Posts
    407
    BTW, I OCed at Griggs to buy Christmas lights over the weekend. They're very OC friendly! So is one of their biggest competitors, Ranch & Home. Its nice having choices.

  8. #8
    Opt-Out Members BigDave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Yakima, Washington, USA
    Posts
    3,463
    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom First View Post
    Howdy forum, I've been visiting (lurking) for over a year now and I'm convinced. I've found lots of useful info and advice here. Honestly, I would have told you that OC was illegal before I ran across opencarry.org. Glad to know the truth.
    I'm planning on OCing this weekend but I can't figure out the holster and coat thing... Anybody have a solution other than CPL?
    The plan: Christmas lights and Griggs! Or maybe the other way around...
    Do yourself a favor and get your CPL as accidentally revealing a concealed weapon is no big issue with it, going from open to accidentally covering up to concealed can be if not in possession of a CPL and besides other benefits come with it as well.
    • Being prepared is to prepare, this is our responsibility.
    • I am not your Mommy or Daddy and do not sugar coat it but I will tell you simply as how I see it, it is up to you on how you will or will not use it.
    • IANAL, all information I present is for your review, do your own homework.

  9. #9
    Regular Member cbpeck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Pasco, Washington, USA
    Posts
    407
    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    Do yourself a favor and get your CPL as accidentally revealing a concealed weapon is no big issue with it, going from open to accidentally covering up to concealed can be if not in possession of a CPL and besides other benefits come with it as well.
    Yea, I agree with that. If you don't already have one, you should probably get one. You never know when having the option to legally CC will come in handy.

  10. #10
    Regular Member amzbrady's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Marysville, Washington, USA
    Posts
    3,522
    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom First View Post
    Howdy forum, I've been visiting (lurking) for over a year now and I'm convinced. I've found lots of useful info and advice here. Honestly, I would have told you that OC was illegal before I ran across opencarry.org. Glad to know the truth.
    I'm planning on OCing this weekend but I can't figure out the holster and coat thing... Anybody have a solution other than CPL?
    The plan: Christmas lights and Griggs! Or maybe the other way around...
    You are able to get your CPL, arent you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    I think I seen you at the BBQ, your rig didn't look like something a neo-nazi skinhead would wear LOL.

    Welcome. I really hope that you enjoy your stay. You didn't have to lurk for so long, but people lurk until they are comfortable or have concluded that they generally agree with the right to OC.
    Yeah huh. +1 reminded me more of a military rig, or swat team rig than a neo nazi rig. I would think Neo Nazi's carry gang waistband style.
    If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist...
    what will you do now to prove you are not stupid?

    "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas

    "They who can who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve niether liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin

  11. #11
    Regular Member Freedom First's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Kennewick, Wa.
    Posts
    850
    Got printed today. The evidence lady at KPD was very nice and commented on the vast number of CPLs issued in the last couple of years. I should have it in 2-3 weeks. Until then I will just get cold...

    Re: Oc and kids. It the main reason why I am starting to OC. Wife and four kids.

    Thanks for the warm welcome.
    Freedom can never be lost, only given away by ignorance, by choice, or at the point of a gun. Here in America we can still choose.

    Freedom First 1775

    "I aim to misbehave..." Malcolm Reynolds

  12. #12
    Regular Member FMCDH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    St. Louis, MO
    Posts
    2,043
    Welcome to the forum!

    My advise would be, don't force it.

    If wearing 1, 2 or 3 layers forced between you and your gun feels uncomfortable, then don't. When you have the choice, OC and CC as is comfortable and as it feels natural in the given situation.

    For now, I understand you don't have the choice, so dress smartly with layers that wont get in the way if you need to draw, and wont cover your firearm accidentally.

    For MUST OC situations (such as no CPL), I suggest you zipper/button whatever layers you wear in the front, then adjust the zipper/buttons in the front up or down as needed to vent body heat, but keep the very bottom of each layer fastened to keep the "wings" of your layers from inadvertently covering the pistol.

    Otherwise, train, train, train on the draw with whatever layers you normally wear, in whatever configuration you wear them in.

    There are advantages and disadvantages to each style, so take time to learn them, and know when it may be to your advantage to switch from one style to the next.

    Cheers & Carry On!

  13. #13
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Somewhere over run with mud(s)
    Posts
    791
    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta92FSLady View Post
    I think I seen you at the BBQ, your rig didn't look like something a neo-nazi skinhead would wear LOL.

    Welcome. I really hope that you enjoy your stay. You didn't have to lurk for so long, but people lurk until they are comfortable or have concluded that they generally agree with the right to OC.
    That is sarcasm directed at certain previous posts that refer to people who wear thigh rigs as "attention seeking neo-nazi skinheads who are trying to provoke an encounter with LEO's" Just using other peoples words against them...
    "And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee.
    Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command.
    So we shall flow a river forth to Thee and teeming with souls shall it ever be.
    E nomine Patri, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti."


    "If the rest of the world says: 'War,' I can only say: 'Very well. I do not want war, but no one, however peaceable, can live in peace if his neighbor intends to force a quarrel.'" - Adolf Hitler...

  14. #14
    Regular Member Freedom First's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Kennewick, Wa.
    Posts
    850
    Sarcasm on a forum?!? Shocking behavior! Actually during this winter I have considered getting one so I could stay warm and OC.
    Freedom can never be lost, only given away by ignorance, by choice, or at the point of a gun. Here in America we can still choose.

    Freedom First 1775

    "I aim to misbehave..." Malcolm Reynolds

  15. #15
    Regular Member Beretta92FSLady's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    In My Coffee
    Posts
    5,278
    Quote Originally Posted by devildoc5 View Post
    That is sarcasm directed at certain previous posts that refer to people who wear thigh rigs as "attention seeking neo-nazi skinheads who are trying to provoke an encounter with LEO's" Just using other peoples words against them...
    I know you are being sarcastic. If you had your rig hanging off a chain, well
    I don't mind watching the OC-Community (tea party 2.0's, who have hijacked the OC-Community) cannibalize itself. I do mind watching OC dragged through the gutter. OC is an exercise of A Right. I choose to not OC; I choose to not own firearms. I choose to leave the OC-Community to it's own self-inflicted injuries, and eventual implosion. Carry on...

  16. #16
    Regular Member xxx.jakk.xxx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Port Orchard, Washington, United States
    Posts
    504
    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom First View Post
    Sarcasm on a forum?!? Shocking behavior! Actually during this winter I have considered getting one so I could stay warm and OC.
    It's a good way to go, but you have to make sure to get a good one. I decided to go cheap and buy a $25 one from a local gun store. As soon as I got home, the retention snap broke, so no more retention. It's very bulky and sits way too low for my comfort. I am probably going to have to buy one of the Blackhawk SERPA thigh rigs or use my webbing and make one of my SERPAs into a thigh rig... again...


    Also, welcome to the forum. =]
    "though I walk through the valley in the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for I know that you are by my side" Psalms 23:4

    "Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power." Benjamin Franklin

    “It’s always open season on criminals in Mason County, and there’s no bag limit.” Sen. Tim Sheldon (D)

    Molōn labe!

  17. #17
    Regular Member Batousaii's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Kitsap Co., Washington, USA
    Posts
    1,234

    Welcome!

    Glad you came aboard. I too usually OC summer/Warm/Dry, or when i go inside and take my coat off. Like Cbpeck said, I usually take my coat off in an isle or in a manner that provides me a moment of privacy. Summer time I often use my neo-cowzi old school drop loop and SA-Six gun as i enjoy the rustic feel of it and can handle my own rather well with it. - During the semi cold/partly rainy, i 1/2 and 1/2 commonly. With my CPL I can simply do what fits my needs or moods and not worry about the in betweens. A comment i liked on an older thread ... "simply, I carry" ... the clothing and coverage is inconsequential.

    Welcome to OCDO

    Bat
    ~ ENCLAVE vmc ~
    The Enclave is looking for patriotic motorcycle riders in Washington State who support liberty and freedom for all. ~ Check us out!
    ~
    * " To be swayed neither by the opponent nor by his sword is the essence of swordsmanship." - Miyamoto Musashi.

  18. #18
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Somewhere over run with mud(s)
    Posts
    791
    Quote Originally Posted by xxx.jakk.xxx View Post
    It's a good way to go, but you have to make sure to get a good one. I decided to go cheap and buy a $25 one from a local gun store. As soon as I got home, the retention snap broke, so no more retention. It's very bulky and sits way too low for my comfort. I am probably going to have to buy one of the Blackhawk SERPA thigh rigs or use my webbing and make one of my SERPAs into a thigh rig... again...


    Also, welcome to the forum. =]
    I have the "neo-nazi" version of the Blackhawk! Serpa. It is EXTREMELY comfortable and easy to draw. The other benefit is that, unlike most other thigh rigs which only have one, it has two attachment points on the belt. This allows it to be set up in a "y" configuration that allows all pockets to still be accessible and also helps to spread the load out more evenly so it doesn't drag your waist into the ground like some other thigh rigs tend to do.

    I just got the Blackhawk! thigh platform so that I can use whichever holster on the thigh rig and just switch them out depending on my desires. It is something like 60 bucks at Quantico Tactical and can probably be found for a LOT cheaper on cheaperthandirt or ebay....
    Last edited by devildoc5; 12-09-2010 at 08:14 PM.
    "And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee.
    Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command.
    So we shall flow a river forth to Thee and teeming with souls shall it ever be.
    E nomine Patri, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti."


    "If the rest of the world says: 'War,' I can only say: 'Very well. I do not want war, but no one, however peaceable, can live in peace if his neighbor intends to force a quarrel.'" - Adolf Hitler...

  19. #19
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Somewhere over run with mud(s)
    Posts
    791
    Quote Originally Posted by Batousaii View Post
    Glad you came aboard. I too usually OC summer/Warm/Dry, or when i go inside and take my coat off. Like Cbpeck said, I usually take my coat off in an isle or in a manner that provides me a moment of privacy. Summer time I often use my neo-cowzi old school drop loop and SA-Six gun as i enjoy the rustic feel of it and can handle my own rather well with it. - During the semi cold/partly rainy, i 1/2 and 1/2 commonly. With my CPL I can simply do what fits my needs or moods and not worry about the in betweens. A comment i liked on an older thread ... "simply, I carry" ... the clothing and coverage is inconsequential.

    Welcome to OCDO

    Bat
    LOFRIGGINL!

    Now all we need to do is get you a cowboy hat that has some Nordic runes on it right?
    "And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee.
    Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command.
    So we shall flow a river forth to Thee and teeming with souls shall it ever be.
    E nomine Patri, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti."


    "If the rest of the world says: 'War,' I can only say: 'Very well. I do not want war, but no one, however peaceable, can live in peace if his neighbor intends to force a quarrel.'" - Adolf Hitler...

  20. #20
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Lakewood, WA
    Posts
    1,001
    Quote Originally Posted by devildoc5 View Post
    LOFRIGGINL!

    Now all we need to do is get you a cowboy hat that has some Nordic runes on it right?
    LOL Nordic runes! That reminds me of an old online RPG I used to play called Runescape. In that game, EVERYONE goes around with their weapon in their hand! Now THAT'S what I call open carry!

    I've tried out devildoc's thigh rig, and it's extremely comfortable, especially with the semi-elastic leg straps. Feels very natural to draw from, and if you were to get a Blackhawk! quick disconnect kit, you could switch between thigh rig and paddle/belt attachment in 10 seconds. The kit comes with one male and two female adapters, or the other way around. Either way whichever kind you have one of you put on your Blackhawk! serpa holster, and the other two you put on whatever platforms (i.e. belt attachment, paddle attachment, chest rig, thigh rig, etc.) you wish to use. Then you have one holster and multiple options for how you want to carry. Personally, I'm hoping I get a thigh rig and QD kit for Christmas so I can use the thigh rig for OC and swap to the paddle attachment or belt attachment for CC. I do a bit of both and switch between the two quite often, and for now I'm stuck with the paddle attachment. If I wanna OC I have to tuck my jacket behind the gun, and for CC I just throw it over.

    With the thigh rig, the two points where it attaches to your belt are actually detachable from the end, so I could keep the belt attachments on my belt 24/7 and use them whenever I wear the thigh rig. Just clip in to the belt and clip the leg straps when I go to the thigh rig. When I take off the thigh rig, I could just put on the paddle attachment which just slips over the belt. Combined with the quick disconnect kit, I'd just disconnect the holster from the thigh rig and snap it onto the paddle attachment. Switched and ready in under a minute!

    I'd much rather switch between the two platforms than tuck my jacket behind my gun because I find it WAY faster and more comfortable to draw from the thigh rig, and if it's crappy weather I can still wear whatever jacket without having to CC. It's worth taking a minute to switch between the two, and it's easy enough that it makes no difference to me. If I get the above mentioned stuff for Christmas I'll make a video and post a link.
    Last edited by .45ACPaddy; 12-10-2010 at 04:31 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by SayWhat View Post

    Shooters before hooters.

  21. #21
    Regular Member Mech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Madison, WI
    Posts
    168
    Welcome aboard!

    My HS Sweetheart lives in Kennewick now; there's a good chance I'll be heading out that way in January. If I head out I'll shoot ya a PM; maybe we can meet up and trade stories!

  22. #22
    Campaign Veteran since9's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
    Posts
    6,787
    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom First View Post
    Howdy forum, I've been visiting (lurking) for over a year now and I'm convinced. I've found lots of useful info and advice here.

    ...

    Honestly, I would have told you that OC was illegal before I ran across opencarry.org. Glad to know the truth.
    How many of us fit into the same category?

    Yes, me. Back in 1991, shortly after I obtained my WA CCW, I knew it was legal while backpacking, with reciprocity in Idaho, but beyond that, I thought it was illegal as hell.

    I'm planning on OCing this weekend but I can't figure out the holster and coat thing... Anybody have a solution other than CPL?
    "CPL?" Corporal? Corporeal? The one think I've learned from 20 years of living in acronym soup is to spell out whatever you're talking about in parentheses the first time you use it, in any post. Obviously, some vastly-used acronyms such as OC and CC are excepted.

    Little else.

    As for the holster and coat thing, shop around! Call ahead and see if they'll accomodate both you and your firearm for fittings.
    Last edited by since9; 12-31-2010 at 05:55 AM.
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

  23. #23
    Regular Member sudden valley gunner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Whatcom County
    Posts
    17,338
    I knew it was legal since very young, around 6 when I saw a guy carrying and my liberal welfare mom said with disgust "Because our state allows you to carry without a permit if you openly do so!"

    I knew at that moment I was going to opencarry someday.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

  24. #24
    Regular Member fire suppressor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Kitsap County
    Posts
    872
    Where is Griggs at? I'm guessing its a department store? We don't have any over here in kitsap county
    "Fight like you train, train like you fight"

  25. #25
    Regular Member Freedom First's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Kennewick, Wa.
    Posts
    850
    Griggs is an old school department store in Pasco. They are an Ace Hardware and they have a pretty good selection of guns and accessories.
    Freedom can never be lost, only given away by ignorance, by choice, or at the point of a gun. Here in America we can still choose.

    Freedom First 1775

    "I aim to misbehave..." Malcolm Reynolds

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •