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'Zero tolerance' v. Montana

ManInBlack

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The primary deficiency is the parents. They are univolved, do not discipline their own children at home and teach them to have little to no respect for others. I would say that makes up 60-70% of the parents and thier student/child.

Perhaps if they were made to PAY for the education of their young, it would make them give a damn.
 

gogodawgs

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Perhaps if they were made to PAY for the education of their young, it would make them give a damn.

They do pay. And because they pay 'taxes' they then think that they can tell the teachers and administrators how to do their job. Again, this is part of the problem, they pay the tax and they think they get to bully the teachers. And their is little to no repurcusions.

Now if the district could kick out students/parents and tell them to go where the sun don't shine there would be a different result.

Couple that with real payment (actual $ or vouchers) and you might see some real pressure for change.
 

ManInBlack

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Couple that with real payment (actual $ or vouchers) and you might see some real pressure for change.


This is what I advocate. Property taxes have to be one of the most unfair possible ways to raise money for schools. Successful, intelligent, well-to-do people generally are more responsible, do not have have more children then they can afford, and are involved in their children's education - and often enroll them in private schools! And yet they are the ones hosed down to pay for the education of 6 siblings from a section 8 palace in the very school that they don't feel comfortable sending their own children to.

Public education is, like most other government programs, a shakedown racket that has the additional unpleasant effect of inculcating statism, P.C., and a whole host of other bad ideas in the minds of the young.
 

arentol

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One of the biggest flaws of "zero tolerance" policies is that they are eminently abusable.

Have an enemy in your class, no problem. Bring a few .22 bullets to school, hang around until after hours when the halls are mostly empty (helps if you have a valid activity to participate in), then slide the bullets through the vent cracks in the other kids locker while nobody else is in the hall. The next morning make sure to be standing by when the kid opens his locker. When the bullets tumble out, or he pulls one out to look at it, scream "He's got bullets, OMG, He's got bullets!!!!!"..... Zero-tolerance = expelled enemy. (Doesn't work if the school has good camera coverage, but there are still ways to sneak bullets into the kids bag, or other property where you can't be seen on camera).
 
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