elixin77
Regular Member
So I swing by my bank (NCSECU) Friday afternoon, to convert coin into paper (this was yesterday afternoon, I was too busy to post until this morning).
After I put all my change in the change machine, I stand in line to talk to a teller. The whole time, I end up being eye-raped by the guy in front of me, and I could tell it's because he's staring at my gun (he had the slightly wide-eyed sheeple response). Anyways, I get up to the teller, do my business (he asks if I was a student at ECU, if I was a ECU Student Safety [which I'm not], whats my major, etc etc). I conclude my business, walk out the door, and head to Sam's club.
After I park, and while I was making my way to the entrance, I get a call from the sheriff's office (yes the sheriff). I answer, and Detective Lengwood(?) (direct phone number: 252-378-5009 - he is a public official, ergo his number can be posted) confirms who I am, goes on to say that I have a CHP (I believe I interrupted him at this point and state that I know my duplicate is ready to be picked up - they hashed my address the first go around). He says 'OK, were you at the bank about 20 minutes ago?' To which I respond yes, I was. He asks if I was armed, to which I say yes, or course. He then starts to spout of that carrying in a bank is illegal (by federal law), and that there's a law called (can you guess it?) gatttotp.
I start to inform him that I am allowed to carry in a bank as long as its not concealed (I even told him I have a picture of the sticker they have at the entrance on my phone - I posted it here somewhere in another bank thread), and then I informed him of the conditions of being charged with gatttotp, both of which he didn't seem too inclined to listen to. He then spouts off that he called the DA and the DA told him that it is illegal, by federal law, to carry a gun into the bank. After he started spewing this nonsense, I tried to arrange a time to meet him face to face, during which my phone disconnects (doesn't do that unless I have 1 bar of service, I had 3). Before I got D/C'ed, he did state that he was going to be in the office come Monday, so I may be swinging by to get some information out of him.
No I did not have the recorder going, because 1) I was not expecting a phone call about this, and 2) I don't thing the 'memo recorder' app would work over the phone, because it uses the built in mic to record everything, and 3) I don't have a habit of recording phone calls anyway.
So, I see a few issues here.
-The bank gave out my name (possibly contact info, but doubtful because I have enough info at the Sheriff's office that this wasn't needed), without a warrant, and without a reason (apart from a possible MWAG call) - I have not dealt with this issue yet, nor will I be able to until Monday
-A detective from the Pitt County Sheriff's office called me *directly* on my personal number
-a detective from the Pitt County Sheriff's office started spewing pure utter BS, and doesn't know the law
-Whichever DA he supposedly called needs to go back to law school, and actually learn the law
I called Dreamer right after this (adrenaline got pumping hardcore, and I needed someone to rant to about this immediately - I'm getting worked up over this just typing it...). We both discuss how many ways this detective is wrong, how he has no basis to back up anything that he said, and possibly a few issues I have to take up with the bank. We also discussed the possibility of SECU being state or federal property (which it's not - did a bit of research, and it is a 'Not for profit bank' that is run by a board of directors, i.e. a corporate entity).
We also discussed how there seems to be a disturbingly growing trend of more and more reports of OCDO NC members getting harassed by LEOs for going about their daily business. The media also seems to be picking up a lot more gun stories in general as well, from what I've noticed.
We also discussed the possibility of me having to lawyer up. I really hope that this incident doesn't come to this, because I'm a broke college student. However, if it does, I will probably be seeking out a civil suit lawyer, and go from there.
Dreamer did mention that I should be thankful that a couple cruisers didn't pull up, cuff me, run my gun number, etc etc, which I am. The last thing I want is an embarrassing (for me at the time) situation like that to happen in parking lot of the bank. But he also said it would be hella lot easier to drill them into the ground in the court room.
I'll keep everyone informed of whats going on. Something like this is NOT going to be taken lightly from me. The only downside, is it'll have to wait for all my effort to kick in until finals are over for me (Tuesday). I'll make sure I get as clear of a recording as possible, to which I might have to walk down to a lawyer with before I post it.
After I put all my change in the change machine, I stand in line to talk to a teller. The whole time, I end up being eye-raped by the guy in front of me, and I could tell it's because he's staring at my gun (he had the slightly wide-eyed sheeple response). Anyways, I get up to the teller, do my business (he asks if I was a student at ECU, if I was a ECU Student Safety [which I'm not], whats my major, etc etc). I conclude my business, walk out the door, and head to Sam's club.
After I park, and while I was making my way to the entrance, I get a call from the sheriff's office (yes the sheriff). I answer, and Detective Lengwood(?) (direct phone number: 252-378-5009 - he is a public official, ergo his number can be posted) confirms who I am, goes on to say that I have a CHP (I believe I interrupted him at this point and state that I know my duplicate is ready to be picked up - they hashed my address the first go around). He says 'OK, were you at the bank about 20 minutes ago?' To which I respond yes, I was. He asks if I was armed, to which I say yes, or course. He then starts to spout of that carrying in a bank is illegal (by federal law), and that there's a law called (can you guess it?) gatttotp.
I start to inform him that I am allowed to carry in a bank as long as its not concealed (I even told him I have a picture of the sticker they have at the entrance on my phone - I posted it here somewhere in another bank thread), and then I informed him of the conditions of being charged with gatttotp, both of which he didn't seem too inclined to listen to. He then spouts off that he called the DA and the DA told him that it is illegal, by federal law, to carry a gun into the bank. After he started spewing this nonsense, I tried to arrange a time to meet him face to face, during which my phone disconnects (doesn't do that unless I have 1 bar of service, I had 3). Before I got D/C'ed, he did state that he was going to be in the office come Monday, so I may be swinging by to get some information out of him.
No I did not have the recorder going, because 1) I was not expecting a phone call about this, and 2) I don't thing the 'memo recorder' app would work over the phone, because it uses the built in mic to record everything, and 3) I don't have a habit of recording phone calls anyway.
So, I see a few issues here.
-The bank gave out my name (possibly contact info, but doubtful because I have enough info at the Sheriff's office that this wasn't needed), without a warrant, and without a reason (apart from a possible MWAG call) - I have not dealt with this issue yet, nor will I be able to until Monday
-A detective from the Pitt County Sheriff's office called me *directly* on my personal number
-a detective from the Pitt County Sheriff's office started spewing pure utter BS, and doesn't know the law
-Whichever DA he supposedly called needs to go back to law school, and actually learn the law
I called Dreamer right after this (adrenaline got pumping hardcore, and I needed someone to rant to about this immediately - I'm getting worked up over this just typing it...). We both discuss how many ways this detective is wrong, how he has no basis to back up anything that he said, and possibly a few issues I have to take up with the bank. We also discussed the possibility of SECU being state or federal property (which it's not - did a bit of research, and it is a 'Not for profit bank' that is run by a board of directors, i.e. a corporate entity).
We also discussed how there seems to be a disturbingly growing trend of more and more reports of OCDO NC members getting harassed by LEOs for going about their daily business. The media also seems to be picking up a lot more gun stories in general as well, from what I've noticed.
We also discussed the possibility of me having to lawyer up. I really hope that this incident doesn't come to this, because I'm a broke college student. However, if it does, I will probably be seeking out a civil suit lawyer, and go from there.
Dreamer did mention that I should be thankful that a couple cruisers didn't pull up, cuff me, run my gun number, etc etc, which I am. The last thing I want is an embarrassing (for me at the time) situation like that to happen in parking lot of the bank. But he also said it would be hella lot easier to drill them into the ground in the court room.
I'll keep everyone informed of whats going on. Something like this is NOT going to be taken lightly from me. The only downside, is it'll have to wait for all my effort to kick in until finals are over for me (Tuesday). I'll make sure I get as clear of a recording as possible, to which I might have to walk down to a lawyer with before I post it.
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