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    Martin Luther King & Gun Permit

    An example of what can occur with a permitting process.

    http://www.lesjones.com/posts/004857.shtml
    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

    The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lFundingR1.png

    "Everything that we see is a shadow cast by that which we do not see." - Martin Luther King Jr.

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    "incidentally, Alabama's refusal to grant King a carry permit is yet another example of why discretionary government permitting is a bad idea. Any discretionary system is prone to abuse and corruption. Today Alabama and most other states are shall-issue, which means they're required to issue carry permits to anyone who legally qualifies. That's the same practice used for most other government permitting - driver's licenses, marriage permits, voter registration, etc., and is the only way to avoid abuse"

    Why should I need a permit at all ? I can already own and carry a weapon without any sort of permit. Just another control method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beretta-m9 View Post
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    "incidentally, Alabama's refusal to grant King a carry permit is yet another example of why discretionary government permitting is a bad idea. Any discretionary system is prone to abuse and corruption. Today Alabama and most other states are shall-issue, which means they're required to issue carry permits to anyone who legally qualifies. That's the same practice used for most other government permitting - driver's licenses, marriage permits, voter registration, etc., and is the only way to avoid abuse"

    Why should I need a permit at all ? I can already own and carry a weapon without any sort of permit. Just another control method.
    Alabama is a may-issue State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    Alabama is a may-issue State.
    yes but incase you haven't noticed we are posting in the wisconsin forum. if your refering to the highlighted red area you may want to take notice to the "snip"
    Last edited by Beretta-m9; 12-12-2010 at 10:43 PM. Reason: additional comment added

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    I am merely correcting a fact, whatever its source. Nothing more. Nothing less. I hope you are down with folks having the correct facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    I am merely correcting a fact, whatever its source. Nothing more. Nothing less. I hope you are down with folks having the correct facts.
    sure am thanks for pointing that out.

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    When I got my Alabama carry permit wayyyyy back when I was 21 I took all four handguns I owned to City Hall in Talladega in a brown paper bag. I plopped them down on the counter and the woman behind the counter read and wrote each serial number on the back of my "license" for concealed carry. Wow, have times changed! No one batted an eye at me and I didn't feel weird or strange or "bad" for carrying my handguns in City Hall.

    As for "May Issue" I know of no one who can legally possess a firearm that was ever turned down for a CCW in Alabama. Of course I cannot speak for MLK that was way before my time and very, very WRONG.

    Alabama should join other forward states such as Florida and make it SHALL ISSUE. Of course a person can always open carry in Alabama within the restrictions of state law.

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    Just outta curiosity and not meant to derail the thread but does anybody know the distance of the shot the killed MLK...Tried searching it out but all I get is second story window....and not feet or yards.

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    Never knew King was pro 2A, at least for a while. Too bad he was denied the use of one. Still, it's hard to beat a rifle with a pistol, especially when the rifle fires first.
    In God I trust. Everyone else needs to keep your hands where I can see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oak1971 View Post
    Never knew King was pro 2A, at least for a while.
    I don't think he was ever against it, he just opted for a different strategy.

    Gandhi did the same. Several times he spoke favorably of arms and revolution, and opined in his autobiography that, "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."

    But as a tactic, he knew (and MLK came to understand) that violence would ultimately cost their movements more than it gained. Not them personally, but their greater objectives: the movement for liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LR Yote 312 View Post
    Just outta curiosity and not meant to derail the thread but does anybody know the distance of the shot the killed MLK...Tried searching it out but all I get is second story window....and not feet or yards.
    I didn't find an exact answer, but you can look at this diagram, and compare it to a google map, and see that it's about 75-80 yards. Typical deer hunting range, nothing special about the shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    I didn't find an exact answer, but you can look at this diagram, and compare it to a google map, and see that it's about 75-80 yards. Typical deer hunting range, nothing special about the shot.
    Thanks much,....Ummm,Yeah actually there was something special about the shot.
    It made/changed History.

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