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Breyer: Founding Fathers Would Have Allowed Restrictions on Guns

amlevin

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This Breyer.... what a bonehead!
He really should stick to ice cream and leave the law to someone who can interpret English. It doesn't seem hard to understand, but evidently, for some at least, must be misconstrued to fit their own ideology.

He just needs to stay on the bench until Obama's replacement gets the opportunity to replace him. We don't need him "retiring" or dying while Obama is occupying the White House. Ditto for Ginsburg. We may not be able to stand their decisions but a replacement from the same mold will be our millstone for a lot more years. The most important thing today is a suitable replacement for Obama. Someone who is Smart, Patriotic, understands the Constitution, and most of all, ELECTABLE!!!!!!!! That may leave out some of the current "faces" that are dancing around the "altar" right now.
 

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Are you taking bets?? Sorry but I must respectfully disagree. Unless the GOP puts up another wishy-washy RINO like McCain, Obama is a one-termer.

Obama bowing out doesn't count, which is possible--I hear his wife doesn't care much for the White House,well, living there.

Hmm, we can bet a box of ammo:cool:
 

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Obama bowing out doesn't count, which is possible--I hear his wife doesn't care much for the White House,well, living there.

Hmm, we can bet a box of ammo:cool:
I doubt he will bow out, but we can all hope he will. I think it is going to take a strong GOP candidate to unseat Obama. The tax bill will help because it goes against his strongest campaign promise but with a wishy washy GOP candidate we are almost sure to see him for another 4 in 2012.
 

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He just needs to stay on the bench until Obama's replacement gets the opportunity to replace him. We don't need him "retiring" or dying while Obama is occupying the White House. Ditto for Ginsburg. We may not be able to stand their decisions but a replacement from the same mold will be our millstone for a lot more years. The most important thing today is a suitable replacement for Obama. Someone who is Smart, Patriotic, understands the Constitution, and most of all, ELECTABLE!!!!!!!! That may leave out some of the current "faces" that are dancing around the "altar" right now.

I don't think you were feelin' me....
I wasn't hoping he'd retire or croak.
I was wishfully thinking there needs to be a way to can a lummox that attempts to legislate form the bench, and that ANYONE appointed could be removed from office by demonstrating a willful disregard for the Constitution.
 

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I doubt he will bow out, but we can all hope he will. I think it is going to take a strong GOP candidate to unseat Obama. The tax bill will help because it goes against his strongest campaign promise but with a wishy washy GOP candidate we are almost sure to see him for another 4 in 2012.

When "handicapping" the next race for the White House, you have to take into consideration that there will be no "Bush Haters" in the mix. Obama got a considerable amount of support from those who were "Anybody but Bush" and felt that McCain was just "Bush 2.0". Obama will have to stand on his own based on his management of the Economy. With Healthcare and Unemployment being even more unpopular than Bush's programs, as well as his not winding down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as quick as he promised, he's got some real issues that will send the "wishy washy" voters back with an "Anybody but Obama" to any reasonable candidate on the Republican side.

Just like the Dem's came up with someone NEW like Obama, the Republicans need to polish up a new face, one with some intelligence and leadership ability. Time is running out if the R's want to change their image from that of a bunch of "old farts".
 

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Living there? She's too busy taking junkets to Spain with with friends to be spending time in the White House. Obama has too much pride not to run again.
 

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Living there? She's too busy taking junkets to Spain with with friends to be spending time in the White House. Obama has too much pride not to run again.

Don't forget the "Holiday Vacation" she's taking to Hawaii. Must not have as big an entourage this time as she's taking a 737 sized plane (that probably still holds 150 or so passengers. BO will be joining her later and of course he'll be bringing along the "Big Bus".

Probably going there to make sure his birth certificate (the real one, not the one they showed) is still being kept under lock and key.
 

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When "handicapping" the next race for the White House, you have to take into consideration that there will be no "Bush Haters" in the mix. Obama got a considerable amount of support from those who were "Anybody but Bush" and felt that McCain was just "Bush 2.0". Obama will have to stand on his own based on his management of the Economy. With Healthcare and Unemployment being even more unpopular than Bush's programs, as well as his not winding down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as quick as he promised, he's got some real issues that will send the "wishy washy" voters back with an "Anybody but Obama" to any reasonable candidate on the Republican side.

Just like the Dem's came up with someone NEW like Obama, the Republicans need to polish up a new face, one with some intelligence and leadership ability. Time is running out if the R's want to change their image from that of a bunch of "old farts".

That is a very good point. I just wonder if it is enough to sway enough voters (read electoral vote) to get him out.
 

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That is a very good point. I just wonder if it is enough to sway enough voters (read electoral vote) to get him out.

I would think there would be enough. Some of the states that have been hit hardest by Obama's policies are among those with the largest number of Electoral Votes. Also consider that some states will be loosing electoral votes due to the Census and other areas will be gaining them. This election will be different than any conducted with the current electoral vote distribution.

BTW, Washington may gain an electoral vote. We're supposed to find out later today.
 

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I would think there would be enough. Some of the states that have been hit hardest by Obama's policies are among those with the largest number of Electoral Votes. Also consider that some states will be loosing electoral votes due to the Census and other areas will be gaining them. This election will be different than any conducted with the current electoral vote distribution.

BTW, Washington may gain an electoral vote. We're supposed to find out later today.

I sure hope you are right.
 

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BTW, Washington may gain an electoral vote. We're supposed to find out later today.

So now we know that WA DID gain another electoral vote/house seat. The question is, is it only because the massive sucking sound coming from CA? Working in realestate here in the Spokane/Cd'A area showed me just how many Cali's are moving up here. Explains all the bad winter driving!
 

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So now we know that WA DID gain another electoral vote/house seat. The question is, is it only because the massive sucking sound coming from CA? Working in realestate here in the Spokane/Cd'A area showed me just how many Cali's are moving up here. Explains all the bad winter driving!

:banghead::banghead::banghead::cuss::cuss::cuss:

I know I know, we can't shoot them. Could we at least tag & neuter them before releasing them back into the wild so the population does't get any more out of control? :cry:
 

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So now we know that WA DID gain another electoral vote/house seat. The question is, is it only because the massive sucking sound coming from CA? Working in realestate here in the Spokane/Cd'A area showed me just how many Cali's are moving up here. Explains all the bad winter driving!

Probably because Illinois and New York each lost two.
 

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I sure hope you are right.

It's now official, Washington did gain the "seat". That means one more electoral vote.
With the other changes that means 6 fewer electoral votes that Obama can "count on" when the 2012 election occurs. Couple that with the votes he may well loose because of his incompetence being revealed and the 2012 election is surely no "slam dunk" for a sitting President.

Some scary thoughts though.

Should Obama decide that one is enough, does that mean the Dem's will run Biden for President?

Will the Republicans come up with an electable candidate or will they just run one of their old "party regulars"?

Time's wasting.
 

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I actually think Romney wouldn't have been too bad. At least he would have wiped the floor with BO in the debates unlike McCain. But whether his being Mormon would be enough to cause some concern, dunno? On the other hand since BO has pretty much shown his true colors now (Hope and Change come only in PINK), a lot of people might see past that. As an aside, it's still baffling how Giuliani's campaign blew it.

Gingrich is likely to throw his hat in the ring for 2012. I had hoped he would in 2008. Gingrich is sharp and has the conservative intellectual firepower in the same rarified stratosphere as the late William F. Buckley. Seriously, Obama would just get decimated by Gingrich in any *fair* debate. Frankly, the fact that so many in this country have become susceptible to the siren song of soft socialism by way of promises of "free" stuff via big government, only shows the extent that the leftists have succeeded in brainwashing our kids via our public school systems which they've worked for years to control. Socialism as an economic system cannot create real prosperity. Even Communist China figured this out, hence they're arguably more capitalist than WE are!

I digress. Gingrich could beat BO in a fair intellectual debate handily-- although try having "fair" debate in a society with a media largely controlled by devout liberals. Plus, the free-love, don't judge libs will suddenly find the piety that went missing when Clinton or John Edwards were carousing, and attack Gingrich for his personal life and how he divorced.
 

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It's not who would beat who in a debate, it is who could be elected. As for Romney being a Mormon, who cares (besides those to bigoted to be able to think for themselves), this argument was used in an attempt to keep Kennedy from winning. The "morons" kept hammering that he'd be taking orders from the Pope. Didn't happen, did it.

Romney doesn't "stir the juices" like a successful candidate would and I'm not so sure he is able to rise to national levels with his "management skills". LA Olympics are far different than State and National issues. Not all that pleased with his performance in Mass.

Gingrich has way too much baggage. He is not what the Republicans need as he's just more of the same old candidate. Too much "IOU Cashing" and not enough looking for a real, genuine candidate. I don't want to see any more of the same faces, especially those that have lost before. I guess that eliminates Huckabee.

If the Republicans aren't careful and don't get it together soon their "momentum" will move to a third party. All that will do is split the vote. A good candidate that can be supported by the party faithful's and attract the majority of the Independents will win in 2012. The "same old faces" will just give us another 4 years of Obama or "blech", Biden.
 

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It's not who would beat who in a debate, it is who could be elected. As for Romney being a Mormon, who cares (besides those to bigoted to be able to think for themselves), this argument was used in an attempt to keep Kennedy from winning. The "morons" kept hammering that he'd be taking orders from the Pope. Didn't happen, did it.

Romney doesn't "stir the juices" like a successful candidate would and I'm not so sure he is able to rise to national levels with his "management skills". LA Olympics are far different than State and National issues. Not all that pleased with his performance in Mass.

Gingrich has way too much baggage. He is not what the Republicans need as he's just more of the same old candidate. Too much "IOU Cashing" and not enough looking for a real, genuine candidate. I don't want to see any more of the same faces, especially those that have lost before. I guess that eliminates Huckabee.

If the Republicans aren't careful and don't get it together soon their "momentum" will move to a third party. All that will do is split the vote. A good candidate that can be supported by the party faithful's and attract the majority of the Independents will win in 2012. The "same old faces" will just give us another 4 years of Obama or "blech", Biden.

BTW, just to keep this somewhat "On Topic for this Forum", more of the same from Obama will merely embolden him on anti 2A legislation. Couple that with the chance that he will get to replace either Ginsburg or Breyer should be incentive enough to get started soon. Yesterday is almost too late.
 
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