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North American "Security Perimeter"

Thundar

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Yes they are at it again.

Of course Hillary is involved.

Link: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/12/12/canada-foreign-ministers-meeting-wakefield.html

Fair use:


Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon will host U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Mexico's Secretary of Foreign Affairs Patricia Espinosa at the picturesque Wakefield Mill Inn in Wakefield, Que., about 35 kilometres north of Ottawa.

Recent reports that a new security and trade perimeter deal could be in the works between the U.S. and Canada have put the spotlight on Monday's meeting.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010...inisters-meeting-wakefield.html#ixzz17xouiWGL
 

ChiangShih

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I'm pretty sure they only mean Northern North America. There are three countries on this continent.

Actually, it is like a 10 country continent if you don't count the islands nations attached to the continental plate :D
 
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it appears the only security perimeter is.......................................us.
 

KBCraig

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The number is 24.
That's an odd number. How do you arrive at it?

If one includes all the non-island nations in "the Americas", it is: North America, 3; Central America, 7; South America, 19. The island nations and territories add another 30~ish (depending on how you parse their nationhood).

Speaking of the North American tectonic plate, it includes the 3 North American countries, but not Central America, and adds Cuba, Bahamas, Greenland, half of Iceland, and half of Siberia.

No matter, there are still exactly three nations on the North American continent. Islands aren't on the continent, and the subcontinent that lies on a different tectonic plate is part of the landmass, but not the continent.
 

eye95

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I am so glad the the RKBA is such a settled matter that we can spend our time arguing over how many countries constitute North America. BTW, Wikipedia puts the number at 23. So that would probably be the answer on Jeopardy.

Generally, when folks speak of North America, they may or may not be including Central America or the island nations. So, no one is wrong here, just operating from different perspectives.
 

KBCraig

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I am so glad the the RKBA is such a settled matter that we can spend our time arguing over how many countries constitute North America.
I didn't know a proposed "North American Security Perimeter" --the topic of this thread-- had anything at all to do with gun rights.
 

since9

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This is nothing more than political posturing and showmanship. In the last decade, 3,000 U.S. civilians died at the hands of non-local terrorists. That's less than 2% of the 155,000 who were murdered by criminals.

Yet it'll probably cost the taxpayers billions to implement, so ok, it's more than just politics as usual. It's a means of siphoning even more of the taxpayer's dollars into the hands of those who're getting rich off the deal providing these "services."

Come to think of it, I'm beginning to believe the whole Department of Homeland Security and TSA efforts are really thinly disguised "work for welfare" programs, as well as a way of getting the more vocal "we should do something!"ers to shut up.
 
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KBCraig

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I'm beginning to believe the whole Department of Homeland Security and TSA efforts are really thinly disguised "work for welfare" programs, as well as a way of getting the more vocal "we should do something!"ers to shut up.
"Beginning to"? It's been pretty evident since 9/13/2001, especially when GWB and the congressional Democrats federalized the security screeners over the objections of the GOP.
 
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