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    NRA now supports Constitutional Carry!

    I am glad they have joined the fight. Please contact them and tell them we expect their support for Constitutional Carry in Wisconsin.

    http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6095
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    Huh, would you look at that!

    I'm guessing though, that they'd like "shall issue" first as a framework for carry in other states; at least from how they chose their words. I'll be interested to see if anyone get's a reply from them about their actual plans in Wisconsin. If the 800lb gorilla pushes constitutional carry as well, we have a darn hard ticket to beat; even from people like Gunderson who seems to be strict "shall issue".
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    Well, Kudos to the NRA.
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    If the NRA would come out and say that is what they want from the legislature and governor, it would be a HUGH unifier for Wisconsin gun owners. There is no need for compromise. All that needs to be said to compromisers is: "Enforce existing laws."
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    When i see the NRA walk the walk and lobby our Wi. legislators for constitutional carry I'll believe it, otherwise it's just talk the talk and nothing more.
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    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

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    Quote Originally Posted by springfield 1911 View Post
    When i see the NRA walk the walk and lobby our Wi. legislators for constitutional carry I'll believe it, otherwise it's just talk the talk and nothing more.
    +1000

    If the NRA were as Anti Registration as they would like us to think we never would have had a permit system in the first place,and Constitutional Carry would be nothing new.
    Its my own thought they dropped the ball on this many years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post

    You may be right.
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    I sure hope this comes to Wisconsin....Would really make winter easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelevra View Post
    i sure hope this comes to wisconsin....would really make life easier.
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    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    nra supports constitutional carry...................about damn time!

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    that picture hails from michigan its a little town and i have traveled through there when i was a kid
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    Quote Originally Posted by McX View Post
    nra supports constitutional carry...................about damn time!
    Yup....after all the criminals have been doin it for decades...if not than a century or more.
    Its been often said that "Criminals have more Rights than Victims"...so that makes Constitutional Carry just another circumstance that proves the point "Criminals have more Rights".

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    Quote Originally Posted by springfield 1911 View Post
    When i see the NRA walk the walk and lobby our Wi. legislators for constitutional carry I'll believe it, otherwise it's just talk the talk and nothing more.
    I have to agree with that. They have always been more on the side of CC across the country but if they are serious about it good for them. Time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverclotheshoff View Post
    that picture hails from michigan its a little town and i have traveled through there when i was a kid
    And most of the weddings in that town happen in the winter...when it's frozen over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brass Magnet View Post
    Huh, would you look at that!

    I'm guessing though, that they'd like "shall issue" first as a framework for carry in other states; at least from how they chose their words. I'll be interested to see if anyone get's a reply from them about their actual plans in Wisconsin. If the 800lb gorilla pushes constitutional carry as well, we have a darn hard ticket to beat; even from people like Gunderson who seems to be strict "shall issue".
    Wouldn't it be grand if you guys could get both Constitutional carry AND shall issue at the same time? that way, if you wanted to come to a state like MI, you could easily get your permit, but if you had no desire to carry out of state, you wouldn't need a permit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yooper View Post
    Wouldn't it be grand if you guys could get both Constitutional carry AND shall issue at the same time? that way, if you wanted to come to a state like MI, you could easily get your permit, but if you had no desire to carry out of state, you wouldn't need a permit.
    With all do respect there Yooper:

    Wouldn't it be GRAND if you guys in MI could get your legislature to accept non resident permits from MN, UT, FL, ect? OR BETTER YET, get MI to go to Constitutional carry? Wouldn't that solve the MI problem?

    If we wanted to go down the have WI solve a MI problem, then WI should solve the CA, and NY problems also, right? How would we do that, with a VERY STRICT "may issue?" The reason WI residents cannot carry in MI has nothing to do with WI and everything to do with MI.

    For those WI residents who want to carry in MI, or any other state, I would hope you would work for less restrictive carry in THOSE states instead of more restrictive carry in WI.

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    ^^^ It sure would be nice!

    Then again, screw you guys and your Lions!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yooper View Post
    Wouldn't it be grand if you guys could get both Constitutional carry AND shall issue at the same time? that way, if you wanted to come to a state like MI, you could easily get your permit, but if you had no desire to carry out of state, you wouldn't need a permit.
    This will sound more terse in written form than I intend, however, I'd rather not have to hire sate employees and burden the folks of WI with permits just so I can overcome the shortcomings of another state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Support The 2nd View Post
    With all do respect there Yooper:

    Wouldn't it be GRAND if you guys in MI could get your legislature to accept non resident permits from MN, UT, FL, ect? OR BETTER YET, get MI to go to Constitutional carry? Wouldn't that solve the MI problem?

    If we wanted to go down the have WI solve a MI problem, then WI should solve the CA, and NY problems also, right? How would we do that, with a VERY STRICT "may issue?" The reason WI residents cannot carry in MI has nothing to do with WI and everything to do with MI.

    For those WI residents who want to carry in MI, or any other state, I would hope you would work for less restrictive carry in THOSE states instead of more restrictive carry in WI.
    It would be awesome if every state had Constitutional Carry. My post wasn't MI specific, but used as an example. Many states require permits from your home state in order to carry. Having a law like AZ and AK isn't more restrictive. It gives you the option of getting a permit if you want reciprocity with other states, and also gets rid of the federal GFSZA, and can get rid of the NICS check for gun purchases. Also, it would help eliminate a person from having to get several non-resident permits to carry outside of the state. NH has a non-resident permit that is cheap, and easy to get, but they don't recognize permits issued to people who live in a state that differs from where the permit is issued. Same with Florida (though theirs costs a ton). Wouldn't you rather give your money to your own state, rather than fork out a bunch of money across other states for the option to get a permit if you choose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yooper View Post
    It would be awesome if every state had Constitutional Carry. My post wasn't MI specific, but used as an example. Many states require permits from your home state in order to carry. Having a law like AZ and AK isn't more restrictive. It gives you the option of getting a permit if you want reciprocity with other states, and also gets rid of the federal GFSZA, and can get rid of the NICS check for gun purchases. Also, it would help eliminate a person from having to get several non-resident permits to carry outside of the state. NH has a non-resident permit that is cheap, and easy to get, but they don't recognize permits issued to people who live in a state that differs from where the permit is issued. Same with Florida (though theirs costs a ton). Wouldn't you rather give your money to your own state, rather than fork out a bunch of money across other states for the option to get a permit if you choose?
    27 states allow OC with no permit, so, the majority of the country you can defend yourself without any state oversight. Let's get the other 23 to tag along.

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    I hope that the NRA realizes they have an opportunity to stick a stake in the Joyce Foundation's attempt to bring Chicago style gun laws to Wisconsin. Maybe adoption of Constitution Carry will cause WAVE perform its mission of anti-violence education, not gun control.






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    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipper View Post
    Maybe adoption of Constitution Carry will cause WAVE perform its mission of anti-violence education, not gun control.
    I will raise a glass to that. Then thier money will be used to accomplish good things.

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    From the email I received from Wi-Force today:

    WI-FORCE's position has not changed: "Constitutional Carry" which, as it implies, is very close to the right as the Constitution guaranties, is the concept that we support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polekat View Post
    From the email I received from Wi-Force today:

    WI-FORCE's position has not changed: "Constitutional Carry" which, as it implies, is very close to the right as the Constitution guaranties, is the concept that we support.
    Wow! Can you copy that email here?

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