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    Angry this is a stick up ya'll!!!!

    Last year like we usally do me and some friends loaded up the cars and went to Thunder Over Louisville (in Kentucky, we are from Cincinnati). We got there about 1 A.M. and camped out on the side walk. the next morning we got up grabbed our spot and half of the group stayed to save it and the other half went to move the cars and get ice, drinks, food etc. while moveing the cars we stopped at a Mobile to get the ice, while standing in line i see a man flip up his hood, covering his face along with his sunglasses before walking in the door, i felt very uneasy after seeing this. In the store was my two friends, my girl friend and myself along with 10 or so others scattered around the store and in line. We are all standing there waiting patiantly when I hear " this is a stick up!" he had his hands in his pockets and none of us knew if he was armed or bull s@#$ing us. My girlfriend scared to death stood between my friends as one of them stepped in front of her and I reached for my weapon that was hidden by my coat at the time, I am a CCW holder(I dont remember if i was in front or besides my friends but the decision didn't leave time for that thought). I began to pull it from the holster when it was about halfway out the idiot called "Im joking you all", turns out he knew the casher and was joking.
    #1. dont do that in a store full of people
    #2. who knows who else has a gun so dont do it
    #3. I should have pulled him out side told him what is what
    #4. next time ill call the police after words "for inciting panic" like those liberals like trying to get us for!
    P.S. I called Louisville PD the day before i left and they said we cant stop you from carrying, its your right.
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    Would he have pulled such a stunt if he had seen an openly carried firearm? He is stupid, but surely not that stupid.

    One more argument for OC. It gives others the information they should have before doing something stupid.

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    agreed

    agreed,but I am still on the fence about how to carry, I like the privacy but am ordering a pancake holster for one of my guns. I like staying to myself but would like the "respect" I will get by carrying open. I have done both. carried the day i turned 21.

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    Oh, I wasn't suggesting that you OC. How you carry is entirely up to you. Some folks (clearly not you), especially many LEOs to whom I've talked, think it is foolish to OC. Your story made me realize that there is yet one more reason that OC has value.

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    Not to mention the possibility of an off duty LEO reacting to this and possibly shooting said idiot.

    Then we would have another thread dedicated to how LEO's murdered another innocent citizen.

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    OC

    OC as a huge value, and i am waiting till after Christmas to a OC holster that works better and losks in my weapon unlike the one i currently have right now. I plan to start OCing in jaunary. i just watched a youtube video and the Captain in th evideo says he doesnt see the point, what is his deal? If a gun is visible, everyone will watch thier P's and Q's
    here is the link if you all want to watch it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYWz7BEEg1k
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    A holster with positive retention is definitely a good idea. You can go as simple as a single retention to a triple retention. I recommend getting the holster and practicing drawing with an unloaded gun. It will help you develop muscle memory so if you need to use the gun, the holster doesn't become an obstacle in an emergency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    Some folks, especially many LEOs to whom I've talked, think it is foolish to OC.
    Yet not once have I seen cited a single supporting fact for it.... Not once.

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    OC flies in the face of the late 20th century, early 21st century mindset of a captive people. In a society where being a victim is morally superior to being able to defend yourself, its no question you will get some LEO's, politicians, and the citizenry in general jittery if not "offended".

    OC is a crash course in U.S. rights. Expect good results, expect bad results, but always remember that this is the result of previous generations squandering our rights.

    I hope our posterity will judge us to be better guardians of the rights that our forefathers thought were essential for all Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatsimon View Post
    I am a CCW holder. I began to pull it from the holster when it was about halfway out the idiot called "Im joking you all", turns out he knew the casher and was joking.
    #1. dont do that in a store full of people
    #2. who knows who else has a gun so dont do it
    #3. I should have pulled him out side told him what is what
    #4. next time ill call the police after words "for inciting panic" like those liberals like trying to get us for!
    P.S. I called Louisville PD the day before i left and they said we cant stop you from carrying, its your right.
    My Responses:

    1. Idiot!!! don't do that!!!
    2. If you hadn't been quite so quick to reveal the "joke", you would have been looking down the barrel of my 10mm.
    3. No pulling him outside. This is a safety matter. He gets both barrels full blast in front of everyone. He deserves every second of embarrassment possible.

    4. Then I call the PD and get the DA (doesn't mean District Attorney) some jail time and a fine to pound the lesson through his thick skull.
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    "We are all standing there waiting patiantly when I hear " this is a stick up!" he had his hands in his pockets and none of us knew if he was armed..." One... the threat was communicated. Two... The hand in the pocket indicted a weapon.

    I would have shot him.

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    Yeah, he needs someone to "Dad" him. Unfortunately this tends to be the police in modern society who have to explain to someone like this that, while well intentioned, he very nearly committed suicide by third party. However, this creates a HUGE problem for the firearms holder, who would likely have to ask one of the other people in the store to remain, while one of his friends calls the police, while he himself requests the person remain in the store until the police arrive. And even then one may find themselves dealing with a police officer more inclined to arrest the concealed weapons carrier for brandishing rather than the one who screamed "FIRE!" in a crowded theater.

    At the very least Mr. Holdup met or nearly met the definition of Disorderly Conduct in my state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by palerider116 View Post
    Not to mention the possibility of an off duty LEO reacting to this and possibly shooting said idiot.

    Then we would have another thread dedicated to how LEO's murdered another innocent citizen.
    Probably not here... it would have been "candidate for Darwin Award in the Social Lounge..."
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    @ IXTOW did you see the youtube link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatsimon View Post
    OC as a huge value, and i am waiting till after Christmas to a OC holster that works better and losks in my weapon unlike the one i currently have right now. I plan to start OCing in jaunary. i just watched a youtube video and the Captain in th evideo says he doesnt see the point, what is his deal? If a gun is visible, everyone will watch thier P's and Q's

    here is the link if you all want to watch it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYWz7BEEg1k
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    Quote Originally Posted by palerider116 View Post
    Not to mention the possibility of an off duty LEO reacting to this and possibly shooting said idiot.

    Then we would have another thread dedicated to how LEO's murdered another innocent citizen.
    But, DEAD STUPID JOKERS don't get to the punchline and just maybe NO ONE WOULD EVER KNOW HE WAS JOKING!

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    Reminds me of the time I was standing in a local pawn shop. This dude walks in and up to the counter, pulls up the front of his shirt to reveal a revolver stuck in his waist band.
    Then pulls out the revolver holds it up to the clerk and asked how much he can get if he pawns his gun.

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    wow people are stupid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixtow View Post
    Yet not once have I seen cited a single supporting fact for it.... Not once.
    Really? Hang around officer.com. You'll see a ton of supporting evidence for the fact they do not, in general, like OC.

    Quote Originally Posted by palerider116 View Post
    OC flies in the face of the late 20th century, early 21st century mindset of a captive people. In a society where being a victim is morally superior to being able to defend yourself, its no question you will get some LEO's, politicians, and the citizenry in general jittery if not "offended".

    OC is a crash course in U.S. rights. Expect good results, expect bad results, but always remember that this is the result of previous generations squandering our rights.

    I hope our posterity will judge us to be better guardians of the rights that our forefathers thought were essential for all Americans.
    Well said! Especially the crash course part. Provided we mind our P's and Q's and don't pull a knee-jerk "I'd shoot him" reaction every time someone pulls a stupid stunt, I think the judgment will hold us in good stead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greatsimon View Post
    ...My girlfriend scared to death stood between my friend as the step in front of her and i reached for my weapon that was hidden by my coat at the time...
    Maybe I am misinterpreting this, the grammar probably an oversight on your part (it happens to me sometimes). If, when he said "This is a stick up", you stepped in front of your girlfriend I would say that was a bad move. I understand wanting to protect her my reaction may have been the same thing. Thinking about this if you step in front of her and pull your weapon, and say he was armed as well, and you exchange gun fire you are increasing her risk of being hit by a bullet that may miss you or be an in and out. Since I am sure you where trying to protect her I would submit the correct movement would be to move away from her while you draw.

    I probably would have called the police to teach the bastard a lesson, or he probably would have a few extra holes.
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    Easy there, trigger

    So is no one taking from this the idea that sometimes people make jokes and you really need to calm down before drawing on someone like that?

    Ideally, yes, no one would ever make that mistake. But I don't think you're going to be able to stop everyone from joking. And given the fact that the OP and his girl were in no immediate danger even if it was a stick-up (target was the cashier, not the customer), it sounds like several of you would be in trouble for brandishing pretty quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie View Post
    So is no one taking from this the idea that sometimes people make jokes and you really need to calm down before drawing on someone like that?

    Ideally, yes, no one would ever make that mistake. But I don't think you're going to be able to stop everyone from joking. And given the fact that the OP and his girl were in no immediate danger even if it was a stick-up (target was the cashier, not the customer), it sounds like several of you would be in trouble for brandishing pretty quickly.
    NOPE.

    In "my" State I have the option of using DEADLY FORCE to stop another if they are in comission of a FELONY.
    This includes if I REASONALBLY believe them to be in commission of said felony.

    As long as I really thoought it was a "stickup", which is a felony here, the "brandishing charge would not apply.
    Matter of fact, he would need to feel lucky that he did not get shot.

    All that said, you are 99.99999% likely to NEVER be "on scene" at a stickup or in the same situation as the OP.
    What part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" is so hard to understand ???


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bebop View Post
    Maybe I am misinterpreting this, the grammar probably an oversight on your part (it happens to me sometimes). If, when he said "This is a stick up", you stepped in front of your girlfriend I would say that was a bad move. I understand wanting to protect her my reaction may have been the same thing. Thinking about this if you step in front of her and pull your weapon, and say he was armed as well, and you exchange gun fire you are increasing her risk of being hit by a bullet that may miss you or be an in and out. Since I am sure you where trying to protect her I would submit the correct movement would be to move away from her while you draw.

    I probably would have called the police to teach the bastard a lesson, or he probably would have a few extra holes.
    Soooo......should he push her to the ground or hide behind her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie View Post
    So is no one taking from this the idea that sometimes people make jokes and you really need to calm down before drawing on someone like that?

    Ideally, yes, no one would ever make that mistake. But I don't think you're going to be able to stop everyone from joking. And given the fact that the OP and his girl were in no immediate danger even if it was a stick-up (target was the cashier, not the customer), it sounds like several of you would be in trouble for brandishing pretty quickly.
    No. No. No. If we are to defend ourselves effectively, we must be able to make effective snap decisions. Adding to the decision mix "Is this guy kidding?" and not reacting until that question is answered could result in innocent deaths as a result of the hesitation.

    Someone who makes such a joke is lucky if a potential defender has the extra beat necessary to correctly assess the joke. If such a joker ends up dead it is his own foolish fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogeater f6 View Post
    Soooo......should he push her to the ground or hide behind her?
    You really need to re-read my post.

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