Aaron1124
Regular Member
So tonight, I was doing some shopping with my wife and daughter. We had spent a good hour and a half at Walmart before checking out. It was incredibly busy. I am sure everyone was getting their Christmas shopping done. The lines were ridiculously long. Anyway, as we were searching for the shortest lines, I heard one of the Customer Service Supervisors on her radio saying "He's heading toward the door right now.." with no knowledge of me being the subject.
Anyway, the lines didn't seem any shorter, so we all turned around and got back in line at the far side of the store. Then I heard her say "He just turned around. He's in line at aisle ***"
Within about one minute, a man walked up to my strong side, and got (no kidding) about three or four inches away from my sidearm. He did not announce himself as being any kind of staff of Walmart. I turned around and looked at him, and here's how the conversation went:
(His name is Craig)
Craig: "Do you have a uh.. concealed pistol license?"
Me: "Yes..." (with a pause)
Craig: "Uhm.. may I, uhm.. see it?"
(At this point, I was in a long line, with over $250.00 worth of merchandise, so I hesitantly complied)
Me: *Pulls out my CPL and shows him*
Craig *Looks at it for not even a second, and hands it back* Okay, thank you. I appreciate it. We've had some customer complaints, so I just had to ask to make sure you were legal."
Me: "Actually, Washington State is an Open Carry State, and you do not need any sort of licensing to carry your firearm in the manner that I am carrying it."
Craig: "Well you know, when we have customers complain, we have to take action. But you are in the clear. I am sorry for any inconvenience."
Me: "Wait a second. Is this a store policy we're talking about here? Do you require customers to show their CPL if they are carrying openly? Because I use to work in Loss Prevention at the Supercenter Walmart, and during the regional meeting with the regional and market Asset Protection Manager, he never mentioned any such policy. Infact, he said that if the state allows customers to carry a firearm without a license, then it is the policy of Walmart to do so as well."
Craig: *With a surprised look on his face, while looking at the ground* "Well I uhhm, considering you are the one carrying the firearm, you are probably right. I will be sure to look in to it."
Me: "Well there is no probably. I AM right. I have been carrying my firearm like this for years. Call your Market Asset Protection Manager, Doug Strange, and he'll tell you."
Craig: *With another extremely surprised look on his face, after finding out that I know the Market Asset Protection Manager* " Well I do apologize. It's mostly women with their children that have complained. In fact, there was a man in here last week with his firearm, and I asked him the same thing. I truly did not mean any inconvenience to you or your family."
Me: "What's the store managers name?"
Craig: "Janine Janet. Her name is on the receipt."
Me: "And what is your name and title here?"
Craig: "My name is Craig. I am an assistant manager."
Me: "Well I'll be giving her a call tomorrow, along with the Market Manager."
Craig: "Well you have every right to do that. I will be sure to look in to it for you."
And then he walked away.
The entire tone of the conversation changed when I informed him I use to work for Walmart as Asset Protection. The guy couldn't even look me in the eye. He was standing there looking at the ground, talking incredibly nervously, with the Customer Service Supervisor girl (the one who was talking to him earlier) was standing behind him, looking INCREDIBLY flustered. She was very red in the face, and you could tell she was very irritated he didn't ask me to leave. Infact, I am sure it was her who complained - not a customer.
It also made me extremely uncomfortable that he walked so close to my firearm. He was literally only a few inches away from it, and he did not announce himself as any kind of employee.
Anyway, the lines didn't seem any shorter, so we all turned around and got back in line at the far side of the store. Then I heard her say "He just turned around. He's in line at aisle ***"
Within about one minute, a man walked up to my strong side, and got (no kidding) about three or four inches away from my sidearm. He did not announce himself as being any kind of staff of Walmart. I turned around and looked at him, and here's how the conversation went:
(His name is Craig)
Craig: "Do you have a uh.. concealed pistol license?"
Me: "Yes..." (with a pause)
Craig: "Uhm.. may I, uhm.. see it?"
(At this point, I was in a long line, with over $250.00 worth of merchandise, so I hesitantly complied)
Me: *Pulls out my CPL and shows him*
Craig *Looks at it for not even a second, and hands it back* Okay, thank you. I appreciate it. We've had some customer complaints, so I just had to ask to make sure you were legal."
Me: "Actually, Washington State is an Open Carry State, and you do not need any sort of licensing to carry your firearm in the manner that I am carrying it."
Craig: "Well you know, when we have customers complain, we have to take action. But you are in the clear. I am sorry for any inconvenience."
Me: "Wait a second. Is this a store policy we're talking about here? Do you require customers to show their CPL if they are carrying openly? Because I use to work in Loss Prevention at the Supercenter Walmart, and during the regional meeting with the regional and market Asset Protection Manager, he never mentioned any such policy. Infact, he said that if the state allows customers to carry a firearm without a license, then it is the policy of Walmart to do so as well."
Craig: *With a surprised look on his face, while looking at the ground* "Well I uhhm, considering you are the one carrying the firearm, you are probably right. I will be sure to look in to it."
Me: "Well there is no probably. I AM right. I have been carrying my firearm like this for years. Call your Market Asset Protection Manager, Doug Strange, and he'll tell you."
Craig: *With another extremely surprised look on his face, after finding out that I know the Market Asset Protection Manager* " Well I do apologize. It's mostly women with their children that have complained. In fact, there was a man in here last week with his firearm, and I asked him the same thing. I truly did not mean any inconvenience to you or your family."
Me: "What's the store managers name?"
Craig: "Janine Janet. Her name is on the receipt."
Me: "And what is your name and title here?"
Craig: "My name is Craig. I am an assistant manager."
Me: "Well I'll be giving her a call tomorrow, along with the Market Manager."
Craig: "Well you have every right to do that. I will be sure to look in to it for you."
And then he walked away.
The entire tone of the conversation changed when I informed him I use to work for Walmart as Asset Protection. The guy couldn't even look me in the eye. He was standing there looking at the ground, talking incredibly nervously, with the Customer Service Supervisor girl (the one who was talking to him earlier) was standing behind him, looking INCREDIBLY flustered. She was very red in the face, and you could tell she was very irritated he didn't ask me to leave. Infact, I am sure it was her who complained - not a customer.
It also made me extremely uncomfortable that he walked so close to my firearm. He was literally only a few inches away from it, and he did not announce himself as any kind of employee.
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