i realize it's not our 'land mass', but they wonder why kids grow up to dislike cops, when they over react and treat someone like that. it puts a scar on the kid for life. i know i've got my share. me and a buddy were talking the other day, and compared all the open carriers we know. we found about 50 to 60% had their stories to tell, their scars. the cops better figure out quick how to quit making enemies out of the general public, lest we turn and walk the other way when their time of need comes.