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    It was my understanding that there is no need to update your CPL when moving. The only time I've had my CPL updated was when I renewed it and they said nothing about the address change.

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    Indeed, no need to update CPL when you move. Just wait for it to expire, and renew when it's time.
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    That is just the application, not the license. Without something specifically stating the license must bear a CURRENT address, I wouldn't think you need to update it. Just like your license does not expire if you move and don't update the address (given your entire move is within WA).

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    The RCW's you cite are for drivers license and vehicle license. They do not apply to the CPL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sigfan View Post
    Yes, but you are required to update your license within 10 days should you move:
    http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/change.html
    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.20.205
    I stand corrected on that. I have never notified the DMV and I have moved a lot. I just wait till my next renewal. I did notice there is no punishment described in either link for failure to notify them.

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    This discussion raises a question in my mind, what if I didn't have an address, what do I put on Licenses? HMMMMM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    This discussion raises a question in my mind, what if I didn't have an address, what do I put on Licenses? HMMMMM.
    Quote Originally Posted by sigfan View Post
    I thought about this too. I've often wondered what would happen if you wanted to buy an RV. To register it, you need an address. What if you planned on driving everywhere with it and never stopping in any one place long enough to be considered your address? Same thing with a vehicle of any sort, as you said. It does seem problematic.
    Post Office Boxes work. There are lots of people that are "Full Timers" in their RV's and just use PO box for mail. If the Post Office gives you any hassle about not having a "real address" just use one of the "No Tell" mailbox companies. I used one for a business address for over 15 years. Gave me more privacy at my home too.

    Of course you could just give them the address of the nearest "Tent City" in King County.
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    The easiest way to see that it's not needed:
    http://www.dol.wa.gov/business/firea...ealchange.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by amlevin View Post
    Post Office Boxes work. There are lots of people that are "Full Timers" in their RV's and just use PO box for mail. If the Post Office gives you any hassle about not having a "real address" just use one of the "No Tell" mailbox companies. I used one for a business address for over 15 years. Gave me more privacy at my home too.

    Of course you could just give them the address of the nearest "Tent City" in King County.
    I was told it couldn't be a post office, but of course I didn't check if this was true or not.

    I almost gave up (lost) my house and was thinking about the RV thing for awhile.

    I really don't even hardly check the P.O. Box either, I just don't like getting mail, it's never good news........
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Even though the proof has been cited, I'd just like to add that I tried to update my CPL's address and the woman at the desk let me know that it wasn't needed as long as the DMV had my current address on file.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    I was told it couldn't be a post office, but of course I didn't check if this was true or not.

    I almost gave up (lost) my house and was thinking about the RV thing for awhile.

    I really don't even hardly check the P.O. Box either, I just don't like getting mail, it's never good news........
    When you use one of the "Private PO Boxes (not post office) they give you a real Street Address and then in order to route your mail to the right box in their facility you just add terms like "Suite No. xx or Unit Number xx". As far as the "drones" in the DOL offices are concerned you have a "real" address. As I stated earlier, it worked fine for over 15 years. I have a son who's doing the same and know of dozens of RV'ers that have done it for years.

    The only bad side to this is if you forget to give a change of address to all those that send you bills. These private facilities are not allowed to forward your mail after you quit using them. Any bills that come after you close the service will just be tossed in the waste basket. This can cause you to not know about an odd bill or two and after a few months of it not being paid, end up with it in collection.

    PS: don't do this for any address that you need for a license like an FFL. They will actually show up to "inspect" your "place of business". Won't work if you are using "Mailboxes Aren't Us" or the like.
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    As others have shown, updating address on CPL is not required. Yes there is a requirement to update address for drivers license. A quick check didn't turn up a penalty, but it could be buried somewhere as part of some administrative fee or civil fine.

    Need to be aware that when you buy a gun and fill out the forms you have to produce ID that shows your current address. If it shows an old address, no get gun

    And by the way, there is no "DMV" in Washington. It is DOL, and yes, they DO have something to do with CPL. While PD does the issuing, it is the DOL that does the recording and record keeping.

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    Its looking like i will be moving back to Washington on a possibly permanent basis. I have an out of state DL and a WA CPL with the out of state DL listed on it. When I get a Washington DL and therefore lose the Arizona DL do I also lose my CPL until I get an updated one? Since the DL and WA address on the CPL would both be invalid, I am skeptical on its validity.

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