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    Guns for groceries...read this!!

    I just happened to stumble on this article by accident. Basically, the Socialist Police Department of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia San Diego...want you to turn over your guns for a bag of groceries, wow. Well, not literally, but they want you to just hand over your guns for a free food card from Food 4 Less. After reading this, I about fell off my chair. All I gotta say is this...you are ALWAYS welcomed to come by my house and drop your guns off here and I would gladly keep them...no questions asked. Don't get me wrong, I understand and respect peoples opinions on how they feel about not wanting guns in their homes. But to use a ploy like this to help take away a law abiding citizens right to defend their home is plain out right f***ing stupid. What will the Communist Police come up with next, a free day at the zoo if you turn in your assault rifles? My opinion here...you buy into this sh*t, you're as dumb as a lump on a log.

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    In Southeastern S.D., Exchanging Guns for Groceries:
    The line of cars snaked out of the parking lot, its tail disappearing around the block. It inched forward as drivers one-by-one rolled down their windows and handed over weapons — pistols, shotguns, assault rifles. San Diego Police officers checked for bullets, then piled the guns on a table inside.

    "Look at this," said Rancho Peñasquitos resident Pete Mapaneo, displaying a black .22 caliber handgun before handing it over to an officer. "It looks like a toy, but it's deadly. If my grandkids got it, oh no."

    It was the third gun exchange organized by the United African American Ministerial Action Council, a southeastern San Diego nonprofit that on Monday gave out $100 and $200 grocery gift cards in exchange for the weapons, no questions asked.

    The annual event was organized amid a swell of resident outrage after the 2008 shooting deaths of two teenagers. Residents wanted to get guns out of neighborhoods before they could cause harm.

    Many in line Monday morning lived within blocks of the nonprofit's office in the Diamond neighborhoods near Euclid Avenue and Market Street and said they'd lived the area's history of violent crime.

    But others like Mapaneo came from as far away as Rancho Peñasquitos, Oceanside, and Jamul, and had never visited this particular part of town. Some in line said they thought it a good idea to get guns off the streets.

    For Mattie Davis, a 79-year-old who lives nearby and showed up to turn over her .22 caliber pistol, the danger seemed quite the opposite. It wasn't until she left southeastern San Diego that she felt compelled to buy a gun.

    Davis was raised in the area, but moved away with her husband several decades ago as his job building tract homes took him east, in the direction of San Diego's development boom, to communities she hardly knew.

    To protect herself, she bought the gun when she moved to Rancho San Diego near Jamul and kept it on the passenger's seat of her car as she drove to and from her nighttime job.

    But in the last decade she moved back to the southeastern San Diego neighborhood where she grew up. She said she felt safe at night again.

    "I know everybody here," she said. "Why do I need a gun? I don't need it anymore."

    And so she showed up with her son Clarence to surrender it for a $100 Food 4 Less gift card. She planned to spend it immediately at the shopping center next door.

    For police, getting guns off the streets can seem a Sisyphean task, and Monday's haul of 163 handguns and assault rifles was a sobering, table-top display of the firepower potential that peppers San Diego's urban neighborhoods.

    Police officers fear that even in safe homes, guns can get into the wrong hands — like children's or burglars' — and wreak havoc. Before destroying the guns, the Police Department will run their serial numbers against a database of weapons stolen or sought in connection with a past crime. Then, said SDPD evidence handler Mona Vallon, they'll be cut up.

    Vallon would've liked to have her officers wear gloves to avoid disturbing fingerprints on weapons thought to be connected to crimes, but that might have deterred people from handing over their guns. In the last two years, there were no database matches, she said.

    Sergeant Kurt Grube of SDPD's Southeastern Division called the haul a success. The event gave away almost $9,000 in donated gift cards.

    Residents wanting to get rid of guns at other times of the year, he said, can bring them to a San Diego police station, though they won't get anything in return.

    "But we will impound it for them no problem," he said.
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    Too bad Mattie Davis in Rancho San Diego just told everyone in southern California that she is unarmed, and will now be easy pickings by bad guys.

    Sad little sheep all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giaking70 View Post
    Vallon would've liked to have her officers wear gloves to avoid disturbing fingerprints on weapons thought to be connected to crimes, but that might have deterred people from handing over their guns. In the last two years, there were no database matches, she said.

    Sergeant Kurt Grube of SDPD's Southeastern Division called the haul a success. The event gave away almost $9,000 in donated gift cards.
    A success? None were stolen, none were used in crimes. They succeded in creating some victims.
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    How much were the firearms worth? Forget for a second that these people no longer have the ability to defend themselves are they getting a bad deal? 200 dollar gift card for something that potentially cost up to 1000 dollars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooelf View Post
    How much were the firearms worth? Forget for a second that these people no longer have the ability to defend themselves are they getting a bad deal? 200 dollar gift card for something that potentially cost up to 1000 dollars?

    More than that, how much is the ability to defend your life worth?!? Poor little sheep, indeed. Anyone stupid enough to turn in their gun for a gift card for food deserves whatever they get. There are food programs for the poor in every state, including Cali. One thing I know for sure, a program like that sure as hell wouldn't fly here in Washington!
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    Provided it's voluntary...

    Still, when sheeple offer themselves out for slaughter, it increases the risk for the rest of us.
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    Just turns my stomach. Sheeple living in so much fear that they give up a primary means of self defense. Makes no sense at all.

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    "Look at this," said Rancho Peñasquitos resident Pete Mapaneo, displaying a black .22 caliber handgun before handing it over to an officer. "It looks like a toy, but it's deadly. If my grandkids got it, oh no."

    Well Grandpa, by that logic..... maybe you should clear all your medications out of the house too. And let's not forget those cleaning supplies under the sink, that paint in the garage, and those knives in the kitchen.

    Honestly, how does a guy like this live long enough to be a Grandfather while being so motherfriggin dumb?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hunt View Post
    SNIP Honestly, how does a guy like this live long enough to be a Grandfather while being so motherfriggin dumb?!
    Food stamps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gundude View Post
    A success? None were stolen, none were used in crimes. They succeded in creating some victims.
    +1

    As another poster mentions in so many words, its a feel-good lie. Totally designed to serve the public-relations image machine of the local police. Or, rather the PR machine is happy to get free feel-goods from the local ministry that sponsored the guns-for-food victim disarmement program.

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    Sorry for the late reply.

    Pullnshoot, myself, and one other were there protesting just like last year. The only difference was we had about $3500 to buy guns with and had a FFL set up about 10 mins away.

    One guy found out what the buy back was offering and left to come talk to us. If my memory is correct it was a POS and so we told him he'd probably get more $ buy turning it in.

    Another guy came to see us. He had an old Russian made stagecoach gun which was worth well more than $100. Pullnshoot didn't want it so we gave him a list of San Diego FFLs and told him about CGN marketplace so that he could get full value for his gun.

    The last guy we spoke to had a Dan Wesson .357 Magnum. Pullnshoots buddy bought it for $200 of which $100 was gift cards from a non functioning firearm he had just turned in.

    All in all we didn't make a dent in their operations but it was well worth standing out in the rain. We saved two guns from the furnace which is double what we did last year. I will be back next year and will publicize it next year. My plan was to surprise them this year but in backfired do to not a lot of people showing up.
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    well,,

    ill give your buddy 250$ for that "358" magnum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1245A Defender View Post
    ill give your buddy 250$ for that "358" magnum!
    UMMM ya BTW it needed a lot of work done to it. It looked like a U.S. Navy Jet... a lot of corrosion. Pullnshoot and I have first dibs if he doesn't want to keep it anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruby View Post
    There are food programs for the poor in every state, ESPECIALLY Cali.
    I fixed it for you Ruby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1245A Defender View Post
    ill give your buddy 250$ for that "358" magnum!
    HAHA I just caught my typo and changed it to .357. My bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by giaking70 View Post
    I just happened to stumble on this article by accident. Basically, the Socialist Police Department of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia San Diego...want you to turn over your guns for a bag of groceries, wow. Well, not literally, but they want you to just hand over your guns for a free food card from Food 4 Less. After reading this, I about fell off my chair. All I gotta say is this...you are ALWAYS welcomed to come by my house and drop your guns off here and I would gladly keep them...no questions asked. Don't get me wrong, I understand and respect peoples opinions on how they feel about not wanting guns in their homes. But to use a ploy like this to help take away a law abiding citizens right to defend their home is plain out right f***ing stupid. What will the Communist Police come up with next, a free day at the zoo if you turn in your assault rifles? My opinion here...you buy into this sh*t, you're as dumb as a lump on a log.

    Peace!

    In Southeastern S.D., Exchanging Guns for Groceries:
    The line of cars snaked out of the parking lot, its tail disappearing around the block. It inched forward as drivers one-by-one rolled down their windows and handed over weapons — pistols, shotguns, assault rifles. San Diego Police officers checked for bullets, then piled the guns on a table inside.

    "Look at this," said Rancho Peñasquitos resident Pete Mapaneo, displaying a black .22 caliber handgun before handing it over to an officer. "It looks like a toy, but it's deadly. If my grandkids got it, oh no."

    It was the third gun exchange organized by the United African American Ministerial Action Council, a southeastern San Diego nonprofit that on Monday gave out $100 and $200 grocery gift cards in exchange for the weapons, no questions asked.

    The annual event was organized amid a swell of resident outrage after the 2008 shooting deaths of two teenagers. Residents wanted to get guns out of neighborhoods before they could cause harm.

    Many in line Monday morning lived within blocks of the nonprofit's office in the Diamond neighborhoods near Euclid Avenue and Market Street and said they'd lived the area's history of violent crime.

    But others like Mapaneo came from as far away as Rancho Peñasquitos, Oceanside, and Jamul, and had never visited this particular part of town. Some in line said they thought it a good idea to get guns off the streets.

    For Mattie Davis, a 79-year-old who lives nearby and showed up to turn over her .22 caliber pistol, the danger seemed quite the opposite. It wasn't until she left southeastern San Diego that she felt compelled to buy a gun.

    Davis was raised in the area, but moved away with her husband several decades ago as his job building tract homes took him east, in the direction of San Diego's development boom, to communities she hardly knew.

    To protect herself, she bought the gun when she moved to Rancho San Diego near Jamul and kept it on the passenger's seat of her car as she drove to and from her nighttime job.

    But in the last decade she moved back to the southeastern San Diego neighborhood where she grew up. She said she felt safe at night again.

    "I know everybody here," she said. "Why do I need a gun? I don't need it anymore."

    And so she showed up with her son Clarence to surrender it for a $100 Food 4 Less gift card. She planned to spend it immediately at the shopping center next door.

    For police, getting guns off the streets can seem a Sisyphean task, and Monday's haul of 163 handguns and assault rifles was a sobering, table-top display of the firepower potential that peppers San Diego's urban neighborhoods.

    Police officers fear that even in safe homes, guns can get into the wrong hands — like children's or burglars' — and wreak havoc. Before destroying the guns, the Police Department will run their serial numbers against a database of weapons stolen or sought in connection with a past crime. Then, said SDPD evidence handler Mona Vallon, they'll be cut up.

    Vallon would've liked to have her officers wear gloves to avoid disturbing fingerprints on weapons thought to be connected to crimes, but that might have deterred people from handing over their guns. In the last two years, there were no database matches, she said.

    Sergeant Kurt Grube of SDPD's Southeastern Division called the haul a success. The event gave away almost $9,000 in donated gift cards.

    Residents wanting to get rid of guns at other times of the year, he said, can bring them to a San Diego police station, though they won't get anything in return.

    "But we will impound it for them no problem," he said.
    OMG while the sheeple are handing these weapons in have the cops check for crimes committed and stolen weapons before the person drives off ...Jeez what a nightmare scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    Provided it's voluntary...

    Still, when sheeple offer themselves out for slaughter, it increases the risk for the rest of us.
    Wolves prey on the sick and weak within the herd. The more of these there are at the fringes the less likely the strong will be confronted. I don't think we could have depended on these fellow citizens to help out anyway. We have a right to ours and you're right, they have the right to voluntarily give up theirs. OC is great but how many know what to do if something does happen? If not able/willing to use them the guns were of no value anyway, just wish they'd put them on the market that cheap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chewy352 View Post
    Sorry for the late reply.

    Pullnshoot, myself, and one other were there protesting just like last year. The only difference was we had about $3500 to buy guns with and had a FFL set up about 10 mins away.

    One guy found out what the buy back was offering and left to come talk to us. If my memory is correct it was a POS and so we told him he'd probably get more $ buy turning it in.

    Another guy came to see us. He had an old Russian made stagecoach gun which was worth well more than $100. Pullnshoot didn't want it so we gave him a list of San Diego FFLs and told him about CGN marketplace so that he could get full value for his gun.

    The last guy we spoke to had a Dan Wesson .357 Magnum. Pullnshoots buddy bought it for $200 of which $100 was gift cards from a non functioning firearm he had just turned in.

    All in all we didn't make a dent in their operations but it was well worth standing out in the rain. We saved two guns from the furnace which is double what we did last year. I will be back next year and will publicize it next year. My plan was to surprise them this year but in backfired do to not a lot of people showing up.
    Two years ago Chesapeake VA had one of these programs, though only for handguns. I was able to purchase 2 long guns for $30 and $20.

    What sent a huge chill down my spine was the feeling that the gun buy back was really just the conditioning of the people to accept orderly turn in of firearms to the government. That awful scene and what it portends really made my stomach turn.

    Fight the gun turn ins. They really are the worst kind of sheeple conditioning. Who knows Chewie, maybe your efforts turned at least one sheeple into a free man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EXTREMEOPS1 View Post
    OMG while the sheeple are handing these weapons in have the cops check for crimes committed and stolen weapons before the person drives off ...Jeez what a nightmare scenario.
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    that doesnt make alot of sense, during the great collapse, or zombie apocolypse you'll need your guns to keep your groceries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McX View Post
    that doesnt make alot of sense, during the great collapse, or zombie apocolypse you'll need your guns to keep your groceries.
    That's funny. Everytime I see a Zombie, I want to lose my groceries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundar View Post
    SNIP What sent a huge chill down my spine was the feeling that the gun buy back was really just the conditioning of the people to accept orderly turn in of firearms to the government. That awful scene and what it portends really made my stomach turn.
    No joke. Just this evening I heard a public service announcement from ICE over the grocery store sound system about signing up on-line for a program to speed re-entry into the country. It was so 1984 I almost threw up.

    This was not radio station playing. This was their Muzak or whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McX View Post
    that doesnt make alot of sense, during the great collapse, or zombie apocolypse you'll need your guns to keep your groceries.
    Just wondering. Is this great collapse going to be like the one that didn't happen when the year 2000 rolled in?
    Or, maybe the one thats coming on Dec 21, 2012.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Lose View Post
    I fixed it for you Ruby.
    No offense, guys. But, it looks like the forum has a rule that is being enforced.

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