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    tanger outlet mall not open carry freindly

    tanger outlet mall in the dells has posted no weapons signs this info came from the lake delton police dept. who met with tanger on the subject of open carry

    http://www.tangeroutlet.com/company/contact
    here is the contact us page from the website lets let them know how we feel
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    Any more specifics? Did the cops talk them into it?
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    i dont know any more details a freind of mine is freinds with one of the cops in lake delton and that is all the info i have gotten so far
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    another place to boycott
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    We could also patronize a nearby business who does respect our rights. I talked to the couple that own Ponderossa and they wouldn't mind a group of us coming by to have supper some day. If enough people are interested I could start a thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brass Magnet View Post
    We could also patronize a nearby business who does respect our rights. I talked to the couple that own Ponderossa and they wouldn't mind a group of us coming by to have supper some day. If enough people are interested I could start a thread.
    That's nice of them ! I just live too far away from the Dells to make it. But Steak while carrying sounds tasty.
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    here are the details as i know them this is a email from tanger to a freind of mine

    Good Morning XXXX,

    Sounds like I am thankful for all of you great white hunters out there! Tanger respects the right to open carry, however we did have an off duty officer visit the center with his firearm in holster, and the center was mayhem for over an hour. We had all of the stores lock their doors and all shoppers vacate the premise. With the past few years having shootings in malls, it has heightened our merchants awareness and the desire to keep their employees and shoppers safe. We would love to have your group visit and hope that it wouldn't be too much trouble to leave your firearms in your vehicles.

    Thank you for your understanding and have a Happy New Year!

    Heather Sweet
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    hfsweet@tangeroutlet.com
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    So she wants us there but doesn't want us there?
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    Id be interested in meeting at Ponderosa... they serve alcohol there i believe....Lets do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverclotheshoff View Post
    here are the details as i know them this is a email from tanger to a freind of mine

    Good Morning XXXX,

    Sounds like I am thankful for all of you great white hunters out there! Tanger respects the right to open carry, however we did have an off duty officer visit the center with his firearm in holster, and the center was mayhem for over an hour. We had all of the stores lock their doors and all shoppers vacate the premise. With the past few years having shootings in malls, it has heightened our merchants awareness and the desire to keep their employees and shoppers safe. We would love to have your group visit and hope that it wouldn't be too much trouble to leave your firearms in your vehicles.


    Thank you for your understanding and have a Happy New Year!

    Heather Sweet
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    hfsweet@tangeroutlet.com
    I sent Heather a message outlining that since she only allows criminals to carry in her mall, I will not shop there.

    JJC

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverclotheshoff View Post
    here are the details as i know them this is a email from tanger to a freind of mine

    Good Morning XXXX,

    Sounds like I am thankful for all of you great white hunters out there! Tanger respects the right to open carry, however we did have an off duty officer visit the center with his firearm in holster, and the center was mayhem for over an hour. We had all of the stores lock their doors and all shoppers vacate the premise. With the past few years having shootings in malls, it has heightened our merchants awareness and the desire to keep their employees and shoppers safe. We would love to have your group visit and hope that it wouldn't be too much trouble to leave your firearms in your vehicles.

    Thank you for your understanding and have a Happy New Year!

    Heather Sweet
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    hfsweet@tangeroutlet.com
    So a cop carrying a gun on hip in Wisconsin Dells caused their policy? The cop was only following Doylet's directive made in the Dells in 2006.

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo.../43347632.html
    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlockRDH View Post
    Id be interested in meeting at Ponderosa... they serve alcohol there i believe....Lets do it!
    No alcohol at this one. I think they may have had it before but not now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliverclotheshoff View Post
    here are the details as i know them this is a email from tanger to a freind of mine

    Good Morning XXXX,

    Sounds like I am thankful for all of you great white hunters out there! Tanger respects the right to open carry, however we did have an off duty officer visit the center with his firearm in holster, and the center was mayhem for over an hour. We had all of the stores lock their doors and all shoppers vacate the premise. With the past few years having shootings in malls, it has heightened our merchants awareness and the desire to keep their employees and shoppers safe. We would love to have your group visit and hope that it wouldn't be too much trouble to leave your firearms in your vehicles.

    Thank you for your understanding and have a Happy New Year!

    Heather Sweet
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    hfsweet@tangeroutlet.com
    1. The General Manager respects your rights.
    2. An off duty copper is perceived to have caused a panic.
    So, we are not carrying under copper exemptions so we should be good to go!

    Understand, this is a typical response; make restrictive policy that affects only innocent parties and not those truly responsible for the incident or overreaction to it. Next we will be evacuating malls on the observation of a box cutter, nail clipper or containers of liquid holding over a few ounces.

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    Well we are in luck because there are other places to shop.
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    I carried there some time ago and no one panicked, they didn't lock down the mall, etc...

    I have a feeling the story this Heather relates is fabricated. But she'd still love to have our money!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendon .45 View Post
    I carried there some time ago and no one panicked, they didn't lock down the mall, etc...

    I have a feeling the story this Heather relates is fabricated. But she'd still love to have our money!!
    I agree... I have oc'd there before as well... I have some friends that work at that mall, I can ask them.

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    I OC'ed there once, there was no mass hysteria that I remember. Didn't see any signs posted anywhere either, back in July of 2010 or maybe August.

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    the stuff about the lockdown and having all shoppers vacate the premise never happened.

    My wife manages a store up there and I asked her about it and she looked at me like I had two heads.

    Absolutely no idea what I was talking about, and even if she wasn't there that day, she damn sure would have heard about it.
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    Wow...if that is true the mall owners should be notified that she has falsely accused a police officer of causing a panic by displaying a firearm. Did the individual with the firearm that caused the lockdown identify themself as a police officer?
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    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockman View Post
    1. The General Manager respects your rights.
    2. An off duty copper is perceived to have caused a panic.
    So, we are not carrying under copper exemptions so we should be good to go!

    Understand, this is a typical response; make restrictive policy that affects only innocent parties and not those truly responsible for the incident or overreaction to it. Next we will be evacuating malls on the observation of a box cutter, nail clipper or containers of liquid holding over a few ounces.
    I wouldn't pick nits with them, i would pick Sh88s with them. great white north, cute. off duty cops not my problem, but their rules are. their reaction to the incident expanded their problem, and solution(s), visit without the fundamental rights, no thanks, and we all shop elsewhere. frustrating that they cant see past their noses as merchants. the old mentality with a new candy coating still exists: Guns = bad, not presence of gun creates a reasonably safer zone. Their store, their loss, and the money they will lose.

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    the email is real and from the person it says it is from who is speaking for the mall wether they have a policy or not, there is a general manager saying firearms are not allowed and they told the local pd this so i will not press my luck i will not patronize them wether they have it posted or not and i will voice my opinion to her and any other personel i happen to cominicate to
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    That does sound kinda fishy...was it a 'lockdown' or did the patrons 'vacate the premises' probably cant do both.

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    Tanger Outlets is a company based out of NC, started by Stanley Tanger in 1981. Control of the company was transferred to his son, Steven Tanger in January 2010.

    You would think that this company would be all for citizen's right to self-defense, considering the Tanger family's ethnic and religious background. I will never understand how any self-respecting Jewish person can be against the RKBA. Such an attitude flies in the face of Talmudic law, not to mention being a disgrace to the memory of the millions of disarmed Jews who were slaughtered in the Holocaust.

    Whatever happened to "Never Again"?...
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    I sent a (rather long) email to her, & will write a paper letter to the CEO later today.
    And the next time I'm in the Dells, I won't shop there.
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    Are signs posted? No People allowed to protect them selves? (No Guns) We at Tan anger accept full responsibility for safety between our facility and your vehicle . My wife and I were robbed in 2005, (house invasion, two armed felons), five miles from there. I will share this story later this weekend.
    For what it is worth, this will not happen twice?????

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