That would get a big thumb's-up from me.
Now, 23 years later, the National Rifle Association wants to undo it. And why not, with the stated support of incoming Gov. Rick Scott and huge GOP majorities in both the House and Senate? Florida is one of seven states with a full ban on open-carry. There are slim exceptions — gun owners can carry holstered weapons on their own land or while traveling to and from fishing and hunting.
State Sen. Greg Evers, a Republican from Baker, has introduced a bill to allow Florida pistol owners to carry their guns openly. The proposal also changes existing law to allow licensed owners to carry concealed guns on college campuses and at private schools.
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OpenCarry.org is a national advocacy group. Its members in Florida have an online petition — "It is an old right, not a new threat" — with 2,227 signatories. They hold regular meetups to openly carry guns. The next one is Jan. 8 in seven cities around the state. Online instructions include directions on getting a free fishing license and bringing along rods and reels to meet the exceptions allowing open-carry while on the way to angling.
Evers' bill is coming and its passage is all but assured. It's right out there in the open, and you know it's loaded.
Last edited by Mike; 12-31-2010 at 12:15 PM.
That would get a big thumb's-up from me.
Looks like they require log in to read the article.
Anyway, it sounds like progress is being made in Florida. Thanks for all the work you guys are doing to keep things moving down there.
I picked out two serious problems with it.
1) Elimination of 4th amendment, License and ID on demand.
2) No more private transfers, NICS required for all sales.
Last edited by ixtow; 01-02-2011 at 09:31 PM.
2 only applies to out of state transfers at gun dealers. Federal law dictates that for private transfers, both parties be residents of the same state.
I resided in central and northern FL from '60 to '64 and again in '68/69. People carried guns. I dunno legally or illegally but it was done. I remember the 'shall issue' permit thing in '87, which surprised me 'cause I never thought there was a problem with it. It was just 'a right'. What happened?
Just as is happening now, a privilege was created that required trading in Rights.
SOP for FL.
Sounds Good to me Thumbs up for me too
can you reference where you saw the requirement to show i.d. on demand from law enforcement.thank you!
Although the statute specifically says "in possession of a concealed weapon or firearm", it is resonable to believe that this would extend to any firearm carried under the provision.
Two thumbs up for Florida!!! Lots of hard work starting to bare fruit. Hopefully the momentum will travel up to GA, SC.
To lawfully stop and ID someone you need probable cause or reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed. Just openly carrying does not create reasonable suspicion that you are committing a crime for a stop.
So this answers the question of whether a LEO can demand production of a CWFL in the following situationsDespite the obvious potential danger to officers and the public by a person in possession of a concealed gun in a crowd, this is not illegal in Florida unless the person does not have a concealed weapons permit, a fact that an officer cannot glean by mere observation. Based upon our understanding of both Florida and United States Supreme Court precedent, stopping a person solely on the ground that the individual possesses a gun violates the Fourth Amendment.
1) The open carry of a pistol magazine now, and
2) The open carry of a firearm (when open carry is 'more legal' than it is today) next year.
without RAS of some criminal activity taking place. The court had this to say (Paraphrased):
Possession of a concealed gun is not illegal in Florida unless the person does not have a concealed weapons permit.
To the letter of the law, yes.
This is Case Law defined before the passage of OC. Looking forward into the past (???), will it still stand? I personally know of one Assistant State Attorney who will challenge that notion and take it all the way again. He doesn't think anyone should be allowed to have a gun at all. He used to be a Fed, go figure...
If this goes into effect, I expect OCers to get arrested, and worse, for not showing papers on demand.
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Last edited by ixtow; 01-04-2011 at 10:38 PM.
So, with Rick Scott being on TV last night I decided to check on his open carry stuff which led me to this website. And I must first say, GREAT SITE HERE!
My question is when is Scott planning on getting the ball rolling on this? When can we actually expect it to be the new law of the land and not just political bs like all of Obama's campaign promises.
I am by no means comparing Scott and Obama, I think you get my point tho. I don't want to be on this forum 2 years from now saying, "Scott said he was going to... and now I hate him." Like all the Obama supporters are doing.