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    VA Carry Caliber and Ammo type Questions...

    I will apologize if this has been covered, but my search didn't resolve my questions.

    In VA what caliber and brand of handgun(s) are carried by the police? Type and caliber of ammo? Is a backup piece considered normal? If so what is the type and caliber of backup? Does the department mandate a certain brand VA wide? Does each city determine this, or state or another?

    Is there a specification for the trigger pull weight on a piece?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuc65 View Post
    I will apologize if this has been covered, but my search didn't resolve my questions.

    In VA what caliber and brand of handgun(s) are carried by the police? Type and caliber of ammo? Is a backup piece considered normal? If so what is the type and caliber of backup? Does the department mandate a certain brand VA wide? Does each city determine this, or state or another?

    Is there a specification for the trigger pull weight on a piece?
    I know of .357 sig, .40, 9mm. Others may know of more.

    From what I can tell each department makes up its own mind depending on available funds and officer preferences but I have no documentation to support that.
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    I have a neighbor who is a Prince William County Sheriff's Deputy. He carries a Glock in .45ACP. He used to be with the Loudon County Sheriff's Dept and carried a H&K USP in .45ACP then.

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    The Prince William County Police Department carries Glock 21s.

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    Virginia State Police - Sig P229 DAK .357sig
    Fairfax County Police - Sig P229 .40SW (used to use 9mm with Federal 9BPLE, 115gr +P+ JHP in Sig P226 and I think P228/P229s as well, up until a couple years ago.)

    from my own observations...

    Fairfax County Sheriff's Office - Glock (fullsize, don't know caliber)
    City of Manassas Police - Glock 22 .40SW
    George Mason University Police - Sig P229 (don't know caliber)

    and doing some internet research I found

    Virginia Beach Sheriff's Dept. at least at one time used - Glock 19 9x19mm
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    Quote Originally Posted by nova View Post
    from my own observations...

    Fairfax County Sheriff's Office - Glock (fullsize, don't know caliber)
    .40 S&W (by observation circa 2008)

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    Quote Originally Posted by architect View Post
    .40 S&W (by observation circa 2008)
    Thank you. I updated my post.

    It makes sense that the SO and PD would use the same caliber, they likely share the contract with the ammo distributor/manuf.

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    Accomac SO Uses S&W .40 for field officers and 9mm for court and jail services.

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    Henrico uses .40 S&W in Glocks
    Richmond uses .357 Sig in... Sig 2022s I think

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    Not VA agency, but...

    U.S. Coast Guard: Sig P229 DAK in .40 cal. Ball ammo for "playing military", JHP while conducting LE and frangible for range training.
    "If I know that I am headed for a fight, I want something larger with more power, preferably crew-served.
    However, like most of us, as I go through my daily life, I carry something a bit more compact, with a lot less power."
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    I know the National Park rangers use Sigs. Ran into a guy with a fullsize P220, and a girl with a P228 on the top of a mountain.
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    City of Alexandria Police - Glock
    Arlington County Police - Glock

    since others have added non VA agencies that operate in VA,

    Ft. Belvoir (Dept. of Army Civilian Police) - Beretta M9 9mm

    I've seen them qualify at the range.
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    I know personally Virginia Beach officers carrying G23 and G21.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curtis View Post
    Richmond uses .357 Sig in... Sig 2022s I think
    Confirmed, SP2022 for Richmond PD.

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    Chesterfield County Police Captain..

    ....I spoke with confirmed .40 cal. Glock is standard issue. Double stack mags. Nice! What model would that be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by riverrat10k View Post
    ....I spoke with confirmed .40 cal. Glock is standard issue. Double stack mags. Nice! What model would that be?
    Henrico Sheriff's deputy told me they had the choice between the Glock 22 or 23. The one I was speaking to had the 23. All the police officers I've seen and checked have had the 22.

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    Newport News

    a while back I spoke to a couple Newport News police officers while in line at the 7-11. I was open carrying my Colt. They both had some kinda black plastic guns. I was open carrying and neither of them showed any interest. I asked what caliber their guns were and they both blurted "45!!" as if they were surprised that I would not already know that. Nice I said. Me too. They both gave a passing glance at my Colt and mumbled something about "good choice" or "nice pick" or something.

    We all exited with our hot enough to sue over coffee and doughnuts in hand, so, I guess they use 45s here in NPN.

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    Here's a link I just found. It is outdated but it is still somewhat useful if for nothing else than the history of what has been used.

    http://sites.google.com/site/worldinventory/pw_virginia

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    Curtis, is what is the difference in the models, please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by riverrat10k View Post
    Curtis, is what is the difference in the models, please?
    22 is the full size and the 23 is the compact

    22 holds 15 rounds plus 1 in the chamber
    23 holds 13 rounds plus 1 in the chamber

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curtis View Post
    22 is the full size and the 23 is the compact

    22 holds 15 rounds plus 1 in the chamber
    23 holds 13 rounds plus 1 in the chamber
    Gotcha thx.

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    Secret Service - Sig P229 chambered in .357Sig

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolfrmn View Post
    Secret Service - Sig P229 chambered in .357Sig
    FBI - Glock 22 and Glock 23 chambered in .40SW, using Winchester Ranger Bonded 180gr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nova View Post
    FBI - Glock 22 and Glock 23 chambered in .40SW, using Winchester Ranger Bonded 180gr.
    This was interesting:

    This is Winchester 40 S&W Ranger Bonded 180gr. Hollow Point Ammo. This ammo is typically restricted to law enforcement sales only through Winchester. That is a Winchester rule, NOT a law, so you can legally purchase and possess this ammo. This ammo features the new Winchester Ranger Bonded bullet that is manufactured using a newly developed proprietary bonding process. This process eliminates the limitations of traditional copper plated bullets. Ranger Bonded has a controlled jacket thickness and taper, along with a unique bonding process that bonds the copper jacket to the lead core. This is done to ensure optimum performance. The resulting permanent core/jacket bond, with the special hollow point cavity, act in unison to control expansion with deep penetration. This maximizes performance and weight retention through a variety of the toughest barriers – especially auto glass. This ammo is packed in 50rd. boxes, 500rds. per case. 50rds - 40 S&W Winchester Ranger Bonded 180gr. HP Ammo.

    The engineer in me just wants to play with some of these...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuc65 View Post
    I will apologize if this has been covered, but my search didn't resolve my questions.

    In VA what caliber and brand of handgun(s) are carried by the police? Type and caliber of ammo? Is a backup piece considered normal? If so what is the type and caliber of backup? Does the department mandate a certain brand VA wide? Does each city determine this, or state or another?

    Is there a specification for the trigger pull weight on a piece?
    You have received many responsive answers, but I'm curious why you asked the question.

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