Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: Weapons screening services at the new Ann Arbor Municipal Center.

  1. #1
    Regular Member a2fireball's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Ann Arbor, Michigan, , USA
    Posts
    77

    Weapons screening services at the new Ann Arbor Municipal Center.

    "The Ann Arbor City Council voted 10-0 Monday night to approve a $187,000 contract with Washtenaw County for weapons screening services at the new Ann Arbor Municipal Center."

    "...determined it's best for the safety of the public, parties to litigation, judges, the magistrate and court staff to conduct weapons screening at the public entrance."

    http://www.annarbor.com/news/ann-arb...icipal-center/
    “Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.” - George Bernard Shaw

  2. #2
    Regular Member DanM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    West Bloomfield, Michigan, USA
    Posts
    1,937
    I see this in the future for the battle for RKBA in Michigan: tearing down the abuse of the mis-application of the MI Supreme Court administrative order banning firearms in courthouses, courts, and court offices.

    The pertinent part of the MI SC model order is "No weapons are allowed in the (courthouse, courtroom, office, or space used for official court business or by judicial employees)."
    --http://courts.michigan.gov/scao/resources/other/lao/lao15-model.doc

    Where courts and their "office[s], or space used for official court business, or by judicial employees" are housed in a building with non-court government offices, the order is being improperly used in many places to deny RKBA in the non-court areas.

    I hope to see some activism to tear this wrong down! I'm in for the fight!
    "The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi . . ."--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

    “He who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honor by non-violently facing death, may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden.”--M. K. Gandhi

    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --M. K. Gandhi

  3. #3
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Waterford, Michigan, USA
    Posts
    526
    so the building they are going to be screening houses a court?
    let them screen then, they will not catch us law abiding citizens they will catch the badguys.

  4. #4
    Regular Member TheQ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Lansing, Michigan
    Posts
    3,448
    Tearing down these obstacles will prove difficult because a system that employs ppl and makes money has been made (as this thread points out) in order to enforce these policies. The people making money would resist the change.
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

    I am not a lawyer (merely an omnipotent member of a continuum). The contents of this post are not a substitute for sound legal advice from a licensed attorney in your jurisdiction.

    Comments and views stated in my post are my own and do not necessarily represent the views of Michigan Open Carry, Inc. unless stated otherwise in the post.

  5. #5
    Regular Member DanM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    West Bloomfield, Michigan, USA
    Posts
    1,937
    Quote Originally Posted by Beerme View Post
    so the building they are going to be screening houses a court?
    let them screen then, they will not catch us law abiding citizens they will catch the badguys.
    To the extent the screening infringes on the right to keep and bear arms, it is unconstitutional and wrong.
    "The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi . . ."--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

    “He who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honor by non-violently facing death, may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden.”--M. K. Gandhi

    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --M. K. Gandhi

  6. #6
    Regular Member DanM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    West Bloomfield, Michigan, USA
    Posts
    1,937
    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    Tearing down these obstacles will prove difficult because a system that employs ppl and makes money has been made (as this thread points out) in order to enforce these policies. The people making money would resist the change.
    Of course. ". . . then they fight you, then you win." (M. K. Gandhi). Eventually, we win.
    "The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi . . ."--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

    “He who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honor by non-violently facing death, may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden.”--M. K. Gandhi

    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." --M. K. Gandhi

  7. #7
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Arizona, ,
    Posts
    431
    Not to much info, but are they making it a Gun Free Zone? Or just screening for badguys?

  8. #8
    Regular Member Tucker6900's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Iowa, USA
    Posts
    1,249
    I know of one "Court" building that has had metal detectors up for years. 55th district court in Mason. There are court rooms AND public areas in the same building. So is that illegal? Ive always wondered what would happen if a LAC were to walk in to pay a traffic ticket.

  9. #9
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Wayne County, MI.
    Posts
    271
    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker6900 View Post
    I know of one "Court" building that has had metal detectors up for years. 55th district court in Mason. There are court rooms AND public areas in the same building. So is that illegal? Ive always wondered what would happen if a LAC were to walk in to pay a traffic ticket.
    Dearborn Hgts (20th district) has the same thing.
    You have to pay traffic fines in the same building as the court, metal detectors are right at the entry door to the building, no hardware allowed anywhere in the building.

  10. #10
    Regular Member Onnie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Maybee, Michigan
    Posts
    679
    Same with Monroe County, all offices are in the court house, the judge here IMO went way overboard, he closed off all entrances but one and for quite some time its like walking into a top security facility. You have to be searched just to go and pay a fine or pick something up from the County Clerk, I try not to go in there if I don't have to.
    When Guns are OUTLAWED, Ill be an OUTLAW
    American Tactical Imports C45 45 AP
    S&W sigma 40 Cal
    Bersa 380 Thunder Plus
    Hi point C9 9mm
    Chiappa 1911-22 Semi-Auto .22 LR

    Im not a lawyer, but I did play a Klingon once at Universal Studios

  11. #11
    Regular Member Bikenut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Saginaw, Michigan, USA
    Posts
    2,756
    Funny story...

    Saginaw's Court house is a maximum security facility... Officers man a check point complete with metal detecters at the entrance. So one day I went in for an errand and after carefully leaving my sidearm and even my pocket knife in the car... I put cell phone, keys, and change in the little bucket... and stepped through the archway to the sound of the buzzer.

    Ok... step back through and put belt buckle in the little bucket... and ... bzzzt! again. After failing the second time a young officer waves me over so he can do the wand thingy... and the wand goes nuts at my waist on my weak side and I thought... "Oh CRAP! I forgot to take the spare mag off!"

    So the young officer moves my coat aside... sees the magazine.. and shouts all excited... "He's got a loaded magazine!"

    And his partner, a much older and experienced officer, said.... "So what do you think he's gonna do? Build a gun while he's in here? Tell him to put the magazine in one of the lockers."

    And I did.
    Gun control isn't about the gun at all.... for those who want gun control it is all about their own fragile egos, their own lack of self esteem, their own inner fears, and most importantly... their own desire to dominate others. And an openly carried gun is a slap in the face to all of those things.

  12. #12
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Arizona, ,
    Posts
    431
    Quote Originally Posted by bikenut View Post
    funny story...


    And his partner, a much older and experienced officer, said.... "so what do you think he's gonna do? Build a gun while he's in here? Tell him to put the magazine in one of the lockers."

    and i did.
    blahahaha

  13. #13
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Eastpointe, Michigan, USA
    Posts
    1,440
    I was denied entry into the Macomb County Building(shares a court) because I was wearing an EMPTY holster!! He said it LOOKS like I'm carrying a gun, so I had remove it and put it in the car before I was allowed in.

  14. #14
    Regular Member Vmaxx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Rochester Hills, Michigan, USA
    Posts
    85
    Quote Originally Posted by scot623 View Post
    I was denied entry into the Macomb County Building(shares a court) because I was wearing an EMPTY holster!! He said it LOOKS like I'm carrying a gun, so I had remove it and put it in the car before I was allowed in.

    WTF!! If you point your finger & raise your thumb it jesters a gun so cut your hands off & leave them in the car too!!

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •