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    OCDO Censored at Henrico Public Library!

    This is a PUBLIC library:

    The official site of the Henrico County Public Library

    However, if a patron tries to visit OCDO by typing:

    http://www.opencarry.org/

    or:

    http://forum.opencarry.org/

    This is the result: DENIAL

    Perhaps Library Management feels the content provided by OCDO is unsuitable for teens and younger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    This is a PUBLIC library:


    Perhaps Library Management feels the content provided by OCDO is unsuitable for teens and younger.
    Perhaps educating the yung'uns outside of school of issues regarding the constitution and civil liberties is best left to the liberal instructors molding their yung minds to be compliant to TSA assault, police search and seizure absent RAS and PC, and the real role of government in the US.
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    Have you approached the library with your concerns? What, if anything, has been their response?

    In Chesterfield I can get access to sites that might otherwise be filtered if I agree to use a "privacy screen" so that little minds and sensibilities are not offended. It blocks others from seeing the screen even if they are standing behind me - unless they squat down and get in line with the microslats. To do that they would have to be literally looking over my shoulder as the arc of visibility is very narrow.

    As for the youngun's - have you inquired as to what permissions from the 'rents they might need in order to get access if they so desired?

    Yes, it sticks in my craw that a library would filter out anything - at least on the general use 'puters - but it may be easier to deal with (as in avoiding lawsuits and criminal charges) filters than the library trying to corral all the under-age patrons into just one area and one set of terminals.

    Please come back with some answers to the questions posed. We'll be here waiting.

    stay safe.

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    From their policies section

    "In order to block access to materials that may be inappropriate for juveniles, public computers in Children's areas, Young Adult areas, Computer Labs and wi-fi connections are always filtered. In addition, PCs in the aforementioned areas will not provide Internet Chat. Adults have the option of unfiltered access at all other public computers for bona fide research or other lawful purpose."

    Which computers were you using? Is a forum considered "Internet Chat"? Don't see how OCDO fits any of the cited VAC sections ( 42.1-36.1, 18.2-374.1:1, 18.2-390).

    They have multiple magazines in periodicals section that feature weapons- Guns and Ammo, Virginia Game something or other, and others. At least the one in Sandston does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraumaRN View Post
    From their policies section

    "In order to block access to materials that may be inappropriate for juveniles, public computers in Children's areas, Young Adult areas, Computer Labs and wi-fi connections are always filtered. In addition, PCs in the aforementioned areas will not provide Internet Chat. Adults have the option of unfiltered access at all other public computers for bona fide research or other lawful purpose."

    Which computers were you using? Is a forum considered "Internet Chat"? Don't see how OCDO fits any of the cited VAC sections ( 42.1-36.1, 18.2-374.1:1, 18.2-390).

    They have multiple magazines in periodicals section that feature weapons- Guns and Ammo, Virginia Game something or other, and others. At least the one in Sandston does.
    The filters usually have key words. "Gun" seems to be one of the big ones.

    I was playing with the 4g adapters at TMobile a few weeks ago. They even have filters (Including Gun) on their demo laptop.

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    TraumaRN -

    If I read the policy correctly, internet chat is filtered on the kiddie sections' computers but not in the grown-up terminals.

    Again and still, I'm waiting to find out if Repeater has discussed this with the library officials, and if he did was it before or after posting ZOMG FILTERS!!11ELEVENTYONE!!

    stay safe.

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    I like the way our local library system handles it. (The King County Library System is one of the largest public library systems in the country.)

    Logging in to the computers requires the use of your library card number.

    Computers in the kids sections are heavily filtered - there is no way to override those filters.

    General purpose computers in other areas are filtered depending on the settings that you have requested for your card number.

    By default cards have some limited fitering. If you are 17 or over, you may have the filtering options removed for your card, or you may have the more restrictive filtering used in the kids section applied. Parents can have the more restrictive filtering applied to their childs card so that it applies to all computers in the library.

    Wireless access is unfiltered.
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    This is just silly. Why would it filter a domain, with OPEN, CARRY, FORUM, or other inocuous words? What if some poor kid wanted to do a report on the history of weapons, and needed to know what GRAPESHOT was used for....If he googled grapeshot, wonder what he would get...Maybe that would back door him into the forum...
    Didn't say, but I wonder if the filters can be chcnged/turned off at the library, or an over ride code for sites on a case by case basis.

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    Contact the chief executive of the library system and ask them to remove the block - if they refuse, we may have some legal recourse - we may be able to sue them on First Amendment grounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    The filters usually have key words. "Gun" seems to be one of the big ones.
    "Gun" was filtered at Tampa when I went on a cruise a few years ago.

    VGOF would not come up. Warrifles.com would not come up.

    Playboy.com? No problem.
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