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    AZ Congress women shot

    http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=13807790

    Hate that it happened. Lets see how long it is till a firearms bill will take now.
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    A bystander tackled the gunman before he could kill more/himself. If only ther had been someone carrying to get him before he shot 18 people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawmaker View Post
    http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=13807790

    Hate that it happened. Lets see how long it is till a firearms bill will take now.
    Giffords is a gun owner and has not followed the party line on gun control issues. Giffords rides motorcycles and has proven herself as a sportswoman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawmaker View Post
    http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=13807790

    Hate that it happened. Lets see how long it is till a firearms bill will take now.
    I've been watching/listening(background noise haha) to the coverage on Fox for a little while. I thought the same initially but as muccione explains, that is not very likely IMO.

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    One interesting trend I've noticed on the MSM coverage (Fox, MSNBC, CNN) is that they are ALL saying that because the alleged shooter was writing about "government mind control" in his YouTube and MySpace posts, that is proof that he was "deranged"...

    I guess that the boys in the DOD and CIA who spent over $10 million from the early 1950's to the late 1960's on MK Ultra an it's many associated projects (MK-Naomi, MK-Delta, Projects CHATTER, BLUEBIRD and ARTICHOKE, etc) to try and develop mind control techniques, drugs, and technologies must be COMPLETELY "round the bend" then...

    I'm just sayin'...

    When both "sides" of the media try to equate ANY belief with "insanity", it is most likely the exact opposite of insane...
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    as i said before, when the end does come and the Gov't tell you to mass in certain areas for "assistance" and "protection" go any place ELSE
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDT COX View Post
    A bystander tackled the gunman before he could kill more/himself. If only there had been someone carrying to get him before he shot 18 people.
    One of the guys that subdued the guy was carrying a gun. (on the news this morning)

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    AZ Congress women shot

    Here is the latest on Arizone Congress Woman

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonewolf2810 View Post
    One of the guys that subdued the guy was carrying a gun. (on the news this morning)
    Actually it was a woman--Patricia Maisch. She grabbed the second magazine out of his hands, and pushed him down, and sat on his ankles while two other men helped wrestle him into submission...

    Brave lady, for sure...

    And there haven't been any reliable reports that ANY of the people in the crowd who actually DID anything were in fact carrying...
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    one of the guys who did tackle him said he had a gun on him but didn't want to scare anyone or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry1981 View Post
    one of the guys who did tackle him said he had a gun on him but didn't want to scare anyone or something
    That's a good point. If anyone in the crowd was carrying and happened to draw, he/she could've easily been mistaken for the shooter or an accomplice unless they brought a very quick end to things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    And there haven't been any reliable reports that ANY of the people in the crowd who actually DID anything were in fact carrying...
    Here's a CNN interview with the guy who was carrying. He was inside Walgreen's, heard the gunfire, and ran toward it. When he got there, he saw the the shooter had already been tackled. His pistol was empty (at slide lock), but as he tried to reload, the lady wrestled the magazine away. Zamudio (the LAC) helped restrain the shooter until police arrived. He was armed, but didn't draw because he saw the shooter had an empty gun, and he didn't want to cause any confusion about who the real BG was.

    He said he wasn't worried about the empty gun, because he would have drawn his own gun and fired if necessary, but when he realized that the shooter had a knife, it gave him pause.

    Footage: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bes...ess.cnn?hpt=T1

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    well, they are coming much harder after speech (radio, blogs, internet postings) and talking of limiting ammo sales (via a new gun bill to be introduced as early as today)

    i think i read that the guy fired less than 30 rounds? so a congresswoman from NY thinks that buying ammo in bulk to save money or buying a few hundred rounds to take to the range is a threat to free society...........

    and they call us nuts
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    As long as there is reloading equipment available, there is NO WAY they can restrict the amount of ammo you keep on hand, from a practical point of view.

    Ridiculous...
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
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    when as congress (esp the anti-gun nuts) ever been practical?
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