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    Juvenile crimes when buying a gun

    Does your juvenile record effect you when buying a gun?

    As in if you were convected as a felon at age 14 will that stop you from being able to own a gun?

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    As far as I know, juvenile records are sealed and not use against you later on in life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    As far as I know, juvenile records are sealed and not use against you later on in life.
    Juvenile Records are not sealed. Although the general public cannot have access through open records requests under any freedom of information legislation. But on the contrary, almost any goberment agency can access them.

    As to whether it affect to purchase a gun, I would have to say no, or I would not be able to owm one. Kids can do stupid things and I once was a kid.
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    A "juvenile" cannot be prosecuted with a felony. This is basic law (in WI anyway). Juveniles really aren't even prosecuted for crimes if you read the details of the juvenlile justice system. To be convicted of a felony status crime (any crime punishable by more than 1 year inprisonment) a juvenile must first be waived into adult court by a judge. As it is right now if a 16 year old commits a felony status crime they are pretty much automatically waived into adult court to be prosecuted as an adult so that they can then be charged with the felony. If they are lucky they are like me and have it written into their plea that once finishing all conditions of sentancing that the chagrges will be reduced to misdomeanors. I wend through all this back in 1996 when I was 16, I was young and dumb. I believe I am a poster child of why we shouldn't be so quick to try and ruin a young persons life with felony charges when they are young. I went on to finish getting my HSED, went to college for two degrees, and become a contributing member of society with strong morals and decent carreer. I returned to court after completing every condition of my sentancing, and ended up getting my felony charges reopened and reduced to misdomeanors a number of years ago and have never had trouble purchasing a firearm since. I think things may have been different had my charges been for a violent crime though.

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    The Domestic Violence Offender Gun Ban, 'the Lautenberg Amendment' , prohibited anyone previously convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence from owning a firearm, from my understanding because I have been reading into this for a month and this includes "juvenile offences"
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    Ok thank you all for your info and i was able to purchase my first gun today which was a rifle

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    Quote Originally Posted by freedomfighter View Post
    Ok thank you all for your info and i was able to purchase my first gun today which was a rifle
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    I know this is old, but I have to reply anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by BROKENSPROKET View Post
    Juvenile Records are not sealed. Although the general public cannot have access through open records requests under any freedom of information legislation. But on the contrary, almost any goberment agency can access them.

    As to whether it affect to purchase a gun, I would have to say no, or I would not be able to owm one. Kids can do stupid things and I once was a kid.
    Its not true almost all government agencies have access to sealed records. I knew someone with a couple juvenile felonies. He's been in the Army for over two years now. From what I know, the medical field has the most thorough background checks. Especially, in the Pharmaceutical field. Sorry, I am getting off base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronS View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Larry View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by freedomfighter
    Does your juvenile record effect you when buying a gun?
    As in if you were convected as a felon at age 14 will that stop you from being able to own a gun?
    Yes, it's supposed to affect your ability to legally buy a firearm or ammunition, as in you don't have it.

    Here's a PDF of the 4473 form:
    http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/downl...f-f-4473-1.pdf

    Quesiton 11c:
    "Have you ever been convicted in any court of a felony, or any other crime, for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation?"

    So a juvenile conviction counts, and if you had such a conviction you are a prohibited person unless your RKBA (and vote, and be on a jury, and hold public office) has specifically been restored.

    Sounds like maybe you slipped through the cracks?
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