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    Congresswoman readies gun control bill...

    One of the fiercest gun-control advocates in Congress, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), pounced on the shooting massacre in Tucson Sunday, promising to introduce legislation as soon as Monday.

    McCarthy ran for Congress after her husband was gunned down and her son seriously injured in a shooting in 1993 on a Long Island commuter train.
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    “My staff is working on looking at the different legislation fixes that we might be able to do and we might be able to introduce as early as tomorrow,” McCarthy told POLITICO in a Sunday afternoon phone interview.

    Gun control activists cried it was time to reform weapons laws in the United States, almost immediately after a gunman killed six and injured 14 more, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, in Arizona on Saturday.

    Many said that people with a history of mental instability, like the alleged shooter, Jared Lee Loughner, should not be able to buy a gun — and no one should be able to buy stockpiles of ammunition used by the 22-year-old assailant.

    McCarthy said she plans to confer with House Speaker John Boehner and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to see “if we can work something through” in the coming week.

    McCarthy’s bill will look to protect ordinary people, she said, but did not offer further details.

    “Again, we need to look at how this is going to work, to protect people, certainly citizens, and we have to look at what I can pass,” she said. “I don’t want to give the NRA – excuse the pun – the ammunition to come at me either.”

    Pennsylvania Rep. Robert Brady, a Democrat from Philadelphia, told CNN that he also plans to take legislative action. He will introduce a bill that would make it a crime for anyone to use language or symbols that could be seen as threatening or violent against a federal official, including a member of Congress.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1AavzL44m

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    I understand her concern, especially with her personal history. Now, if she would simply understand that the only gun control that might stand a chance of working is to melt every gun, even those from the police and military.

    Never mind that a drug abuser with thinking disorder bought a gun... He lied on the form. Say it ain't so.

    (Edited to fix autocorrect error)

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    McCarthy is great for the gun business. No way in hell she gets any of what she wants, but her blathering is great for pushing those on the fence about buying guns / ammo to do it now. Thank you Rep McCarthy, you are a gun dealers dream.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Carolyn Mc Carthy is a pathetic political hack that will not let any gun related tragedy go by without exploiting it to its fullest. She is an enemy of the second amendment and the private ownership of guns in general.

    Her bill will have to make it through a committee controlled by republicans and no doubt some democrats that will remember the 1994 meltdown and takeover of both the houses by the republicans due to the Clinton AWB and the Brady Bill. It is unlikely that the vicious enemy of firearm ownership will be able to get her trash out of that particular committee. McCarthy had a much more difficult time winning re-election this past November. Her exploitation of a tragedy will only serve to galvanize the voters in her district to try just a little harder to unseat this disgrace that calls herself a U.S. Congress member.

    Many other anti-gun politicians who will suck off this tragedy to push their agenda, but such action will only serve to strengthen the pro-gun activists and make their numbers grow. If any may recall, during the 8 years of Clinton, the NRA grew by over one and a half million members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonameisgood View Post
    Now, if she would simply understand that the only gun control that might stand a chance of working is to melt every gun, even those from the police and military.
    If she could wave a magic wand and -*poof*- make every gun on earth vanish, it would only last until the first hobbyist with a lathe could get out to his garage for a few hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBCraig View Post
    If she could wave a magic wand and -*poof*- make every gun on earth vanish, it would only last until the first hobbyist with a lathe could get out to his garage for a few hours.
    Didn't Kirk make a cannon in a star trek episode out of a tree and rocks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uber_Olafsun View Post
    Didn't Kirk make a cannon in a star trek episode out of a tree and rocks?
    The Mythbusters busted that one. But they have fashioned firearms out of crude implements.

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    The Myth Busters (Tom & Jerry) are buffoons. No one should believe anything they say re: somethng is doable or not. The kids they added to their cast (who also "prove" or "disprove" so-called "myths") are even less believable. It's like getting your history lessons from BS/revisionist/PC Hollywood.

    The show is just for entertainment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudcroft View Post
    The Myth Busters (Tom & Jerry) are buffoons. No one should believe anything they say re: somethng is doable or not. The kids they added to their cast (who also "prove" or "disprove" so-called "myths") are even less believable. It's like getting your history lessons from BS/revisionist/PC Hollywood.

    The show is just for entertainment...
    Feel the hate.

    Considering that they do things out in the open, so that others can check their results, and attempt to repeat the experiments, and considering that they take viewer criticism and redo some of their experiments, taking into account recommended changes, sometimes changing their assessment as a result, I put a lot of stock in the experiments they do and the results they get.

    Feel free not to give them any credibility. Your choice. But, I have provided rational support for why I do give them credibility. You have offered emotional and irrational insults. That isn't support for a rational conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudcroft View Post
    The Myth Busters (Tom & Jerry) are buffoons. No one should believe anything they say re: somethng is doable or not. The kids they added to their cast (who also "prove" or "disprove" so-called "myths") are even less believable. It's like getting your history lessons from BS/revisionist/PC Hollywood.

    The show is just for entertainment...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundar View Post
    McCarthy is great for the gun business. No way in hell she gets any of what she wants, but her blathering is great for pushing those on the fence about buying guns / ammo to do it now. Thank you Rep McCarthy, you are a gun dealers dream.
    I guess she wants to compete with Obama, and become the next gun salesperson of the year.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by c45man View Post
    Carolyn Mc Carthy is a pathetic political hack that will not let any gun related tragedy go by without exploiting it to its fullest. She is an enemy of the second amendment and the private ownership of guns in general.

    Worse than that, she is an opportunistic ghoul, who has based her whole political career on the grisly display of bathing in the blood of her husband (who was murdered on the NY subway by Colin Ferguson). She is a deplorable, ghoulish bureaucrat, and she has parlayed a terrible tragedy into a lucrative political career.

    Why the People of NY keep re-electing her is one of the grand mysteries of modern politics...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rodbender View Post
    So when has'nt that toad danced in the blood of crime victims to further his disarm America agenda? And MSNBC's toeing the anti-gun line along with the fool, as usual. I hate MSNBC.
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    When pressed on gun control by an NBC news troll on Sunday, a Democrat Congress man stated that jobs was more important.

    There aren't the votes to pass anything, in the House OR Senate. There aren't many Democrats saying to themselves, "You know, we didn't lose NEARLY enough seats in November!"

    Gun control's not going anywhere.

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    Nice opinion piece from Market Ticker

    "There seems to be a common misapprehension - perhaps an intentionally-fostered one - about why The Second Amendment exists.

    That this sort of misapprehension exists puzzles me. Certainly, if you're a US Citizen, you've read The Declaration of Independence, right?

    Let me quote a bit of it for you:

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    One purpose of The Second Amendment is for you to be able to personally protect that right to Life. Your life. That is, you have an unalienable right to self-defense. You have that right as a consequence of your creation, which our Constitution vests protection of at birth (we'll save the abortion argument for another day.)"

    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=176947

    I really like this guy. Former dot.com owner, now a financial markets player and political blogger.
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    Nice opinion pieced from Market Ticker

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    A little more. This is some good stuff. Mike?

    "Representative Republics, of which The United States is, are formed on the premise that the people elect persons to represent and discharge their wishes in the various organs of government. That we continue to send people to Congress and The White House who fail to discharge our demands in the form and fashion we desire is no fault but ours.

    There are, in fact, candidates besides Democrats and Republicans on the ballot. In most states you can also write in a candidate. That you believe no candidate other than a "D" or "R" can win does not make it so. It simply means that you, along with your other countrymen and women, are willing to vote for and elect the person who holds the office, irrespective of the fact that they did not do as you directed, or as they promised.

    In short, you are free, as a citizen, to be a masochist. We are, in fact today, a nation of masochists."

    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=176975

    lol

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    Not her again....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uber_Olafsun View Post
    Didn't Kirk make a cannon in a star trek episode out of a tree and rocks?
    Yes, and he used it to defeat the Gorn...

    It's very unlikely to find natually occuring saltpeter just lying around on the ground, though. The Chinese used to scrape the crystalline form off the inside walls of bat caves, but more recent preparations called for ferminting hay in a what was essentially a cesspool. In fact, that's probably how it was discovered. Back then it was also used for salt-cured meats.

    I can't image the guy who first noticed the crystals lying there and said, "Hey - what's this stuff good for? Perhaps preserving food?"

    Yuck.

    But that process would take many months, so Kirk would have had to find a more naturally occuring form.
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    Due to all the talk of gun legislation I'll be ordering 14 High Capacity Magazines, this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yankees98a View Post
    Pennsylvania Rep. Robert Brady, a Democrat from Philadelphia, told CNN that he also plans to take legislative action. He will introduce a bill that would make it a crime for anyone to use language or symbols that could be seen as threatening or violent against a federal official, including a member of Congress.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1AavzL44m
    There are ALREADY laws against threating public officials, and there are laws against threatening REGULAR CITIZENS. And isn't the 1st Amendment SUPPOSED to allow us to be critical of our elected officials? Since when are they any different from the rest of us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frommycolddeadhands View Post
    And isn't the 1st Amendment SUPPOSED to allow us to be critical of our elected officials?
    Yes, provided it's done in a respectable manner.

    Since when are they any different from the rest of us?
    Since we've had to address them as "Dear Honorable SoAndSo."

    While their position demands our respect, their position also demands their service, not their lording their office over us. As Rep. Boehner recently said in his acceptance speech, "We fired Nancy Pelosi," and I strongly suspect it was because she was well-known for her attitude of looking down at the rest of us. Such snobbery deserves a boot from office, and we're just going to have to ensure any and all Congressmen who attempt to yank our rights for nonsensical reasons get the same boot.

    So! Remember Pennsylvania Rep. Robert Brady come election time, to ensure he gets the same "Thank you, but no thanks!" electorial boot we gave Pelosi!
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    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by since9 View Post
    Yes, provided it's done in a respectable manner.
    Really? I missed that requirement in any law or document. I just don't think we are to that level of control yet, Mr 9.

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