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    Mug shot of Tucson shooter

    Boy, that's one creepy looking guy. And the *&*$ is smiling for the camera.

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    Thanks for the link

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    This guy is either COMPLETELY crackers, or he's playing the "insanity plea" card VERY hard...
    It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
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    I don't think you can be considered sane and commit murder. But, that doesn't mean you can't understand the difference between 'right' and 'wrong'. Merely from the comments he's made, I think it can be deduced that even he understood that what he was about to do wasn't considered the norm.

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    too bad that was not his obituary photo.
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    He looks like one of the Tobasco sauce chugging "Observers" from "Fringe":
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    Somewhere, a village in an alternate universe is missing its idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    This guy is either COMPLETELY crackers, or he's playing the "insanity plea" card VERY hard...
    Insanity pleas may result in a "innocent by reason of insanity" finding in court but it's a certainty that you'd wind up in a nut house locked up in a rubber room for the rest of your life.
    "You can teach 'em, but you cant learn 'em."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallschirmjäger View Post
    Thanks for the link
    I didn't think you would want my link because it was off MSNBC.

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    He looks like a cop.

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    I kinda like the "Guilty, but insane plea" they can still get life in a high security insane asylum. That boy is out there way in left field. Should be strung up.
    ‘‘Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.’’ Thomas Jefferson

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    Was there no security detail? Was there no armed citizens? How did this guy do what he did, and not get shot himself?
    This happening makes it that much harder... a lifelong friend of mine is now of the opinion that all Glocks are bad... never mind that I carry one. The fact that I don't have a 30 round mag for it doesn't matter... all should be banned.
    Lets call it what it is, a nut fell through the cracks, and got away with an something terrible. Could the parents have done a better job? Could the collage he was asked to leave have reported the incident to someone? Would that have helped? So meny possible actions could have been taken, but it's all after the fact. But situations like this reinforce why I carry. Every day, every place I can.
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    The guy was a nut. There was nothing that could have been done to prevent this kind of thing from happening short of creating a police state. The downside of Liberty is that bad guys sometimes do their bad stuff. In a free society, sometimes proaction is not possible and reaction is all we have.

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    This just goes to show what happens to you when you take your tin foil hat off!

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    A guy I work with was recently in a class at Pima Community college with this lunatic. He said that the shooter is definitely not playing with a full deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    The guy was a nut. There was nothing that could have been done to prevent this kind of thing from happening short of creating a police state.
    You say that as though that's not EXACTLY what a lot of people exploiting this tragedy would LOVE to have.

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    Think 'Full Metal Jacket'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    This guy is either COMPLETELY crackers, or he's playing the "insanity plea" card VERY hard...
    Having seen the Kubrick classic in the movie theatre, it seems scary obvious that the accused looks too much like Leonard "Gomer Pyle" Lawrence:






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    Mug shot

    This guy is definitly demented.
    It's a real problem that we all face and must be ready
    to deal with at all times. Sorry for the families of the dead
    and the wounded. I am also sorry for having to waste untold
    amount of public funds to defend, feed and house this criminal.
    I wish one of us was there to take him out before he did
    so much damage. If at least a few of the people around
    the Congresswoman had a side arm... Just too bad.

    Take care!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldeye View Post
    This guy is definitly demented.
    It's a real problem that we all face and must be ready
    to deal with at all times. Sorry for the families of the dead
    and the wounded. I am also sorry for having to waste untold
    amount of public funds to defend, feed and house this criminal.
    I wish one of us was there to take him out before he did
    so much damage. If at least a few of the people around
    the Congresswoman had a side arm... Just too bad.

    Take care!
    I was about 3 miles west of that location, heading west on Ina Rd (opposite direction) when I got a phone call informing me of the shooting. About that time I saw a TPD cruiser and Pima County SUV with their lights on going eastbound at a fast rate. I was armed with my 1911 and 3 mags. I had an immediate pang of... 'what if'... ? I had no idea how bad it was 'til I got home (40 min. later) and turned on the tube. I thought just Giffords had been shot up to that time. I feel kind'a guilty for not being there. I might have been able to do something. It's my nature. 'Been thinkin' about that ever since that Saturday morning. Grimly i might add.

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    What he looks like means nothing. What he has done is the issue.

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    His ex girlfriend thinks he is not a nut, that it is all an act even his actions in school and otherwise. She thinks all of this is premeditated. Of course she could be a nut she did date him. Hmmm.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    His ex girlfriend thinks he is not a nut, that it is all an act even his actions in school and otherwise. She thinks all of this is premeditated. Of course she could be a nut she did date him. Hmmm.
    If he is not a nut, then Occam's Razor suggests in the strongest possible terms that he is an agent provocateur.

    The only sane person who would commit such an act is a statist of the highest order. Someone willing to sacrifice the lives others and their own rectitude to enhance the power of the state -- someone who would commit murder to advance a cause they felt worthwhile -- and the only cause this could reasonably be expected to advance is the statist one.

    Personally, I'm inclined to suspect that he's just a nut. But nothing would surprise me these days.

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