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    No Guns-No Business Website

    One of the guys posted this on Iowacarry.org, thought you all might take a peek.

    http://nogunsnobusiness.com/index.php

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    petition signed. nice avatar, by the way.
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    Signed, and posted the link to my facebook page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afcarry View Post
    petition signed. nice avatar, by the way.
    Thanks. Made it myself.

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    The problem is that some businesses are hypocritical. Although Walmart APPEARS to support gun rights and I am often told that Walmart is accepting of Open Carry, my local Walmart has informed me that I may not enter it with a firearm (concealed or otherwise). Doesn't surprise me as they are the corporate partner of Mayors Against Illegal Guns. See: http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns....tnership.shtml

    This on the spot GFZ was/is supported by Walmart corporate, leaving the decision up to the store manager. So... is this particular Walmart a Gun Free Zone? It is for me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker6900 View Post
    One of the guys posted this on Iowacarry.org, thought you all might take a peek.

    http://nogunsnobusiness.com/index.php
    Do you welcome non-permit owners? The sticker specifies permit holder, why not change it to lawful carry???
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrTodd View Post

    This on the spot GFZ was/is supported by Walmart corporate, leaving the decision up to the store manager. So... is this particular Walmart a Gun Free Zone? It is for me...
    Sounds like Waterford Schools. lol.

    BTW, which walmart are you referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stainless1911 View Post
    Sounds like Waterford Schools. lol.

    BTW, which walmart are you referring to?
    At least the Waterfront district doesn't PRETEND to be pro-2A. The Walmart is located on Kenowa Ave in Grandville, a few miles west of the Rivertown Mall.
    Giving up our liberties for safety is the one sure way to let the violent among us win.

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    Hahaha good point. They just teach the second amendment, while practicing other things, and the people who we count on to defend these rights sit on their butts pointing fingers, making excuses and contribute to the problem.

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    Just signed up. And its a USP tactical they have as a symbol. Good gun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    Do you welcome non-permit owners? The sticker specifies permit holder, why not change it to lawful carry???
    I dont know who made the site, I just posted it here. And Iowa requires a permit to carry period, so if the site was made by someone here, thats probably why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker6900 View Post
    I dont know who made the site, I just posted it here. And Iowa requires a permit to carry period, so if the site was made by someone here, thats probably why.
    Aaaah infringing on the 2A are they? Iowa has a long way to go. There should be no permit to OC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    Aaaah infringing on the 2A are they? Iowa has a long way to go. There should be no permit to OC.
    Well, there should be no permit to carry and no restrictions where to carry. A lot of states have a long way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    Well, there should be no permit to carry and no restrictions where to carry. A lot of states have a long way to go.
    True that. I really hope you guys get Constitutional carry in WI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    True that. I really hope you guys get Constitutional carry in WI.
    Me too. I'll have to contact my rep again to get this done now. WI has been in the stone age long enough. We need to be more like our motto and move Forward!
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    Aaaah infringing on the 2A are they? Iowa has a long way to go. There should be no permit to OC.
    Its a mess here right now. Shall Issue went into effect January 1st, and pretty much immediately the AG of Iowa decided that local governments could enact ordinances and resolutions under "Home Rule" that prevent the legal carry of firearms. Its a friggin nightmare.

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    I take it Iowa doesn't have Preemption then???
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    Iowa Code 724.28

    Quote Originally Posted by SlowDog View Post
    I take it Iowa doesn't have Preemption then???
    Yeah....Yeah we do.

    724.28 PROHIBITION OF REGULATION BY POLITICAL
    SUBDIVISIONS.
    A political subdivision of the state shall not enact an ordinance
    regulating the ownership, possession, legal transfer, lawful
    transportation, registration, or licensing of firearms when the
    ownership, possession, transfer, or transportation is otherwise
    lawful under the laws of this state. An ordinance regulating
    firearms in violation of this section existing on or after April 5,
    1990, is void.
    They are basing their decisions on Tom Millers opinion, and the "Home Rule" law. Which, if read clearly states that as long as the ordinance in question is not inconsistent with the laws of the general assembly:


    A city may, except as expressly limited by the Constitution, and if not
    inconsistent with the laws of the general assembly
    exercise any power and perform any
    function it deems appropriate to protect and preserve the rights, privileges, and property of the
    city or of its residents, and to preserve and improve the peace, safety, health, welfare, comfort,
    and convenience of its residents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    Aaaah infringing on the 2A are they? Iowa has a long way to go. There should be no permit to OC.
    (or CC)
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