No one can help me out?
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This is not 2A related, but as a site that I frequent I was hoping to get some input from others in TN.
My wife and I have decided that within 3 years we will be moving to TN from IL. I have a few questions about the state, and I was hoping that some of you could help to answer them.
1) Am I correct in that there is OC and CC allowed in TN? Is a permit needed for either?
2) What about car carry?
3) What about shooting on one's property? Do I need to just check municipal and county laws to make sure that I can shoot on my property?
4) Does it regularly snow there or not?
5) Do people water their lawns? (I am looking for acreage, so I won't be tending all of it)
6) Do people mow their lawns?
7) How are the seasons?
1. Technically, the carrying of a firearm in TN is a crime. There are defenses to this, one being having a Tennessee Handgun Carry Permit (HCP). The HCP is required to carry any loaded handgun off of your own property (owned or rented). The HCP allows for either open or concealed carry of handguns, only.
2. Without a HCP, a loaded firearm may not be legally in a vehicle. Without an HCP, the firearm and ammunition must be separate. It is unclear to me if it is legally required for magazines to be unloaded or if at least 1 item (gun or ammo) must be inaccessible to the passengers. I'll allow someone more knowledgeable fill you in on that.
With an HCP, you may have a loaded gun in your vehicle or a long gun with ammunition as long as there in no round in the long gun's chamber.
3. Municipalities and county governments are allowed to regulate the discharge of firearms (and many do) for non-self defense situations. You will have to check the regulations and ordinances of the particular area. Sorry.
4. We seem to be getting snow about 2-3 times each winter. Usually it is a dusting here in Nashville. out in the plateau (to the east of Nashville) they get more snow more often. And, I can only speak about middle Tennessee.
5. I don't, and I live in the heart of Nashville. Other do. Its up to them.
6. That is determined by local ordinances as well. In most urban/suburban areas, I would expect that there would be some regulations that require mowed laws. They say these are for health reasons. Rural areas may be different.
7. We have 4 distinct seasons. Summers are hot and humid (in general), winters are generally mild (in comparison to Illinois).
What part of Illinois are you in? I happened to grow up in northern Illinois. I used to live in Aurora, IL until I joined the Army.
I'm from Elgin, but I live in Sycamore now. I work near Aurora though.
The hot humid summers are really the only scary part to me. I don't like the heat. I don't know if that is just something that I will have to deal with or not. Are any sections of the state less hot or humid than others? Do you find the summers there to be worse than the ones in Illinois?
Is the permit shall issue?
How much is it and how long is it good for?
The permit is "shall issue" if you meet the requirements of taking the 8 hour course (cost varies from 65-90 dollars depending on where you take it), pay 115 dollars to the state, get finger printed and wait. It is good for 4 years from the date they issue it, not the day you receive it. I live in West TN near Memphis myself. It is VERY HOT and VERY HUMID in the summer time here. It regularly gets near 100 degrees here and heat indexes in the 110-115 degree range (which is what it really feels like with the humidity). Alot of people move from up north to here due to our rather mild winters compared to N. Illinois winters. I have lived in East TN while going to college and found the weather there to be more enjoyable. The great thing about TN is how diverse the geography of the state really is. So just look around, you'll find somewhere in this state that you'll like being.
Last edited by utbob2004; 01-13-2011 at 08:20 PM.
Ok, lets start this by saying that I left Illinois in '88, so my recollections may not be the greatest.
As a kid, I remember that most summers we had quite a few 100+ degree days. We don't get many of those usually, but the humidity is at least 10-20% higher, on average. August is the worst month, generall havving at least have the month of +90 degrees.
I'm sure the Knoxville and Chattanooga areas are a bit more mild in the summer, due to the proximity of the Smokey's, but someone from there would need to comment.
The permit is a $115 fee to the state plus the cost of the required training. The permit is good for 4 years and the renewal is $50 (no retraining needed). Permits are shall issue, but can be revoked easily if the police have it out for you (see Kwikrnu's case).
Ok, back to work for me... I'll check a bit later to see if you have more questions.
I was thinking something near hills or mountains would be more mild. If anyone from that direction could comment I would be most appreciative.
Middle and West are the hottest.
West bout same as AL/MS/LA
East TN can be somewhat cooler as more mountain terrain 1500' and up.
If we didn't have the humidity thing in summer, everybody in the world would want to live here, and we'd have to stack people up like cordwood.
Last edited by Oh Shoot; 01-14-2011 at 12:44 AM.
Darn. I can't seem to find the right place. TN is close to family, has great economic incentive for me to move there, but bad weather. WA state has the weather that I like, but their economy is broken, and it's FAR from my family.
TN is still at the top of my list, but I wish that I could find the perfect place.
So, Eastern TN offers no break from the heat?
I spent a summer in Phoenix... over 100 degrees at midnight. Now that was utter misery.
I work indoors. I just would hate to have to mow in 90 degree heat with humidity.
Is mowing/watering lawns normal or could I give that up?
I say, give up the lawn watering and pay some kid $10-15 every couple weeks to mow your lawn. Tehn you stay out of the heat all together.
As already mentioned, HCPs are required for carry of a handgun on your person or within reach in your vehicle.1) Am I correct in that there is OC and CC allowed in TN? Is a permit needed for either?
See answer to #1 - although you don't need a permit to transport your firearm from point A to point B, but I would recommend they be out of reach and unloaded if you don't have a HCP. HCP or not, leave the rifles and shotguns unloaded and out of reach.2) What about car carry?
Yes3) What about shooting on one's property? Do I need to just check municipal and county laws to make sure that I can shoot on my property?
It's guaranteed to get some flurries particularly during Jan/Feb. We've had an unusual amount of snowfall this year, especially for Dec. 2010. No snow like IL gets though. An inch of snow will shut most schools down here.4) Does it regularly snow there or not?
They do unless you want some dead grass. It all depends on how healthy you want your yard to look. I rarely watered mine last year and we got enough rain to keep it fairly green, although I did have some treatments done by TruGreen. My yard is just over five years old so it's still growing. I haven't put much effort (or money) into making it look like a golf hole at Augusta though.5) Do people water their lawns? (I am looking for acreage, so I won't be tending all of it)
Yes. Most counties/towns have ordinances that require your property be kept in decent condition.6) Do people mow their lawns?
One of the best parts of living in TN are the distinct seasons. Makes for great fishing in spring and fall. Fishing is good in the summer too, but normally before daylight hours.7) How are the seasons?
Just to clarify on car carry.....if you don't have a permit it can not be loaded anywhere in the car, even if not in your reach.
Also to be considered unloaded, the ammo must not be in the "immediate vicinity" of you or the weapon. --T.C.A. 39-17-1308(a)(1)
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
Ok thanks. I figured that I would have to mow around the house, but as I am looking for some acreage I was hoping to let that just grow. As for watering, I don't want to water unless it's the norm. Up in an IL suburban neighborhood it's pretty much expected that you keep your lawn looking like an Augusta green, but I am over that. I would rather not have all of that work.
In the winter is it mostly overcast with rain and mud? That's what I have read.
If you go Condo, no grass to mow.
Rural life is easy to find within close proximity to the cities here. A Big bonus.
"It's guaranteed to get some flurries particularly during Jan/Feb. We've had an unusual amount of snowfall this year, especially for Dec. 2010. No snow like IL gets though. An inch of snow will shut most schools down here."
There is a reason for this, the snow up there in the North is a "dryer" light flake snow, which is easier to drive on. In Tennessee, the snow is a "wet" snow, prone to icing. Ice is the issue on driving.
IMHO, easiest way to carry gun unloaded is to have it locked in your trunk, and the magazines in your glove box if you do not have a permit.
The hot summer months are cut by the glorious invention of air conditioning. Winters are typically mild. Maybe two weeks of below 32 degree weather has been the norm of late, except for this year.
You DO get all 4 seasons here, and Autumn is a visual delight.
My wife and I are 95% convinced that we'll end up in Tennessee, most likely near Nashville somewhere. We'd like to be near a major city for museums and zoos, for our children.
I do want to buy some rural property, as I grew up in the corn fields up in IL. Plus, I'd love to have some land to shoot on.
Thanks for all of your help. Any other information that you wish to share would be most appreciated. I can't wait to leave such an oppressive state for one that still grants people the freedom to live.
I live in the Nashville area, and can point you to some places that are nice...
PM me if you like more info.
I'll even point you to some good gun shops and shooting ranges.
are there good public or business ranges in the area? I am hoping to get enough land that I can shoot on it, but I wouldn't mind using a range. I am a member of a sportsman club now because it's hard to find any affordable land to shoot on in IL. They use it all for agriculture.