Nevada carrier
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I think the feds should prosecute the DA as a co-conspirator and as an accessory after the fact.
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911 police call results in rape, woman says
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sudden valley gunner
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I have watched the film and can attest to the fact I have been treated very harshly, illegally detained, handcuffed and interrogated, harassed, provoked, and threatened for trying to file a complaint against an officer.
What was my complaint for? Being held at gun point, disarmed, harassed, illegally detained, threatened for Openly Carrying.
What was my complaint for? Being held at gun point, disarmed, harassed, illegally detained, threatened for Openly Carrying.
Deanimator
Regular Member
I'm sure that some cops and their supporters would say to the victim, "What would you do if you called the cops and nobody came?"
She should reply, "Well, I wouldn't be reporting a rape."
As with so many recent examples of police criminality, in this case there is obvious complicity and or negligence at all levels of management. In all too many of these cases, police have demonstrated a preference for protecting other LEOs who commit crimes, even violent crimes, over protecting the public.
There is a certain percentage of LEOs who see their position as an opportunity to commit crimes with impunity.
There is a larger percentage of LEOs who either support the above mentioned, or look the other way.
What the actual percentages are, I cannot say.
At the age of 53, my trust of and respect for the police is but a tiny fraction of what it once was.
She should reply, "Well, I wouldn't be reporting a rape."
As with so many recent examples of police criminality, in this case there is obvious complicity and or negligence at all levels of management. In all too many of these cases, police have demonstrated a preference for protecting other LEOs who commit crimes, even violent crimes, over protecting the public.
There is a certain percentage of LEOs who see their position as an opportunity to commit crimes with impunity.
There is a larger percentage of LEOs who either support the above mentioned, or look the other way.
What the actual percentages are, I cannot say.
At the age of 53, my trust of and respect for the police is but a tiny fraction of what it once was.
Beretta92FSLady
Regular Member
If the information on the warrant is thought to be accurate at the time, and they rush into your house and kill you and your family, there is no legal recourse. From what I have heard, conservatively, 10% of raids are at the wrong address.
If this woman fought back, she would have been charged with murder. If you ever have to fight back against an officer who is threatening you, you have two choices, fight for your life,
win and go to prison, or lose and go to the grave. Either way, you are dead.
*OMFG* I just read(e) part of the article, and couldn't get through it.
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eye95
Well-known member
Most of the officers I have met genuinely want to serve and protect the public. We should not let the few bad ones prompt us to paint all with a broad brush. We don't like it when folks paint us carriers with a broad brush when a MWAG does something horrific.
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holeinhead
Regular Member
With you there. I do not think the problem is with bad officers.
What worries me the most is the lack of consequences and accountability when an officer does something wrong. If one of us screws it up, we're thrown in jail. Certainly doesn't look that way if a cop screws it up.
marshaul
Campaign Veteran
The "bad apples" may not fill the whole basket, but then the basket and all the fresh apples in it are used to cover up the bad apples, hiding them from being picked out for their rottenness, and spoiling the whole harvest.
Deanimator
Regular Member
You shouldn't leave out the officers and supervisors who condone, cover up or excuse these behaviors. MOST of the recent cases seem to involve that sort of thing. If it has to go to the Feds, the average citizen is totally at the mercy of thugs in uniform, because the police themselves certainly refuse to do anything.
holeinhead
Regular Member
You make a good point there Deanimator. That is certainly unacceptable. I can't really blame them, since you can't expect a group that needs to rely on each other so much to be impartial when it comes to these things, but that just means the way charges are brought against officers is messed up.
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Deanimator
Regular Member
I absolutely CAN blame them. I blame gang members who cover for each other. I blame organized crime members who cover for each other. I blame the guy who covers for his partner in a liquor store hold up.
I don't have ONE iota of sympathy for a rapist or for his accomplices. The fact that they're getting a city paycheck does NOTHING to change that.
KansasKraut
Regular Member
Jeez...
I watched all six, Glock. Part 4 was the one that almost made me vomit. The way they reacted when the guy asked to file a complaint was disgusting. Made me remember why I detest the police.
I watched all six, Glock. Part 4 was the one that almost made me vomit. The way they reacted when the guy asked to file a complaint was disgusting. Made me remember why I detest the police.
eye95
Well-known member
If you point to a specific case of proven police misbehavior, I'll stand along side you decrying the act and demanding justice. If you point to a specific action by an official "condon[ing], cover[ing] up or excus[ing] these behaviors," I'll stand along side you demanding an investigation and rolling heads.
However, your comments as they currently stand, amount to nothing more than a pointless rant against police in general.
Moving on.
holeinhead
Regular Member
Poor choice of words on my part, just meant to say that I can't really expect them to be unbiased.
since9
Campaign Veteran
It's one of the last bastion's of corruption in our society, and the best way to stop is to continue videotaping the corruption, writing about it, and reporting it to the higher ups!
I'm glad to see a federal investigation has been convened, and I think the idea of hauling the DA up on some rather serious charges is exceptional. It would put the fear of God into all the rest of them would might think about ever protecting a corrupted "law enforcement" system every again.
What's really going to work, however, is when the sheeple stop being sheeple, get their backs up, and take to the streets and city halls against the larcenists hiding behind the walls of what should be, but can't in this case, be called justice.
Deanimator
Regular Member
Do you decry "child abuse" in general or do you "move on" about that too?
Police criminality is large problem in this country, and one which in some cases has transcended individuals. It's now a SYSTEMIC problem. The case being discussed here wasn't ONE person doing something wrong. It was a HOST of people doing something wrong in a TOTALLY broken system. Not ONE of the alleged "safeguards" helped the victim in ANY way.
Your apparent approach is to look at the broken parts of the machine without looking at those parts as a SYSTEM. If FDR had taken your approach, we would have responded to the Pearl Harbor attack by issuing indictments against Yamamoto, Genda and Fuchida, treating them as mere individuals, instead of agents acting on behalf of the Empire of Japan.
Your approach GUARANTEES more robberies, rapes and murders by police.
Deanimator
Regular Member
Remember when the DEA agent was murdered in Mexico, and Reagan(?) shut down the border? That's the kind of thing which needs to happen in this kind of case. The entire policing SYSTEM in that town is to blame. The population as a whole should shut the members of that department out COLD until things are rectified.
Don't talk to them except as REQUIRED by black letter law.
Don't look at them or even recognize their existence.
Don't sell them anything or provide them with ANY services of ANY kind. When they walk into your establishment, tell them you're CLOSED. Demand that they leave, and call the Sheriff's Dept. or State Police on them if they won't.
And document them to the nth degree, especially with audio and video where it's lawful to do saw.
Let them cook their own hamburgers, fix their own cars and sew their own clothing.
If they're going to act like a marauding army of occupation, treat them like one.
since9
Campaign Veteran
Wise words, Deanimator. Put simply, if the police act like thugs, treat them like thugs.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
There are several incidents of "cover up" or dismissing in Washington Forum alone over the past year. Wonder how many other State forums have the same. Wonder how many are never brought to light.
eye95
Well-known member
If you were to imply that an entire group of people was involved in child abuse, I would move on from such a ridiculous generalization.
Your motivation is clearly bashing LEOs in general. So, I won't bother discussing such with you as it just will provide you a launching pad for such bigoted remarks.