calynn
Regular Member
"I do not consent to any searches, but I will not resist"
I think it usually goes something like that.
I think it usually goes something like that.
SNIP In my experience most of my encounters with LEOs while OCing they take my gun "for officer safety" and give it back when they are done. are they allowed to do this? do I HAVE to give them my firearm?
If you want the harassment to stop, stand up for your right to open carry.
Your tools:
Sterile open carry.
Grip tape on your gun (to preseve your guns serial number:lol.
A voice recorder to record everything they say.
The nerve to remain silent
Live Free or Die,
Thundar
Cant the cops just peel this off if they seize the weapon "for thier saftey" and could you possibly be charged with a crim by conceling it?
Law enforcement officerinvolved in a situation in 'make my day colorado' where the 911 would absolutely not dispatch loe to my location as i held a gentleman on the ground w/my FNH pistol. at the direction of 911 operator i released the gentleman from the ground after assuring he was not armed and left the area to meet loe. the loe did sop and i backed up to them w/hands on head, they removed my pistol from my holster which was handed to another loe.
all i heard from behind me was the loe exclaiming...'wow bill you should look at this'...i exclaimed there is one in the chamber!! the loe 'playing' with my pistol kept oh'g and aww'g over the pistol and after further attempts to alert them of the danger, finally stated loudly to the loe holding me, 'if you do not tell him there is a shell in the chamber, i will bring you to your knees and tell him myself!!'
the surprised loe holding me decided i might just do that and said: "jim there is one in the chamber so clear it!" 'Jim' stated...now who leaves one in the chamber?
they gave me back my wallet, cc cert, dl, and firearm(s) and then commented as a group - "we wish more folk had cc certs...when i told them about dispatch they were shocked and agreed to check it out...never hear any more about it...
understand the barney fife mentality more and more and it is truly scary...
wabbit
involved in a situation in 'make my day colorado' where the 911 would absolutely not dispatch loe to my location as i held a gentleman on the ground w/my FNH pistol. at the direction of 911 operator i released the gentleman from the ground after assuring he was not armed and left the area to meet loe. the loe did sop and i backed up to them w/hands on head, they removed my pistol from my holster which was handed to another loe.
all i heard from behind me was the loe exclaiming...'wow bill you should look at this'...i exclaimed there is one in the chamber!! the loe 'playing' with my pistol kept oh'g and aww'g over the pistol and after further attempts to alert them of the danger, finally stated loudly to the loe holding me, 'if you do not tell him there is a shell in the chamber, i will bring you to your knees and tell him myself!!'
the surprised loe holding me decided i might just do that and said: "jim there is one in the chamber so clear it!" 'Jim' stated...now who leaves one in the chamber?
they gave me back my wallet, cc cert, dl, and firearm(s) and then commented as a group - "we wish more folk had cc certs...when i told them about dispatch they were shocked and agreed to check it out...never hear any more about it...
understand the barney fife mentality more and more and it is truly scary...
wabbit
Cant the cops just peel this off if they seize the weapon "for thier saftey" and could you possibly be charged with a crim by conceling it?
Hard to make that case, since the shoplifter is being charged with a crime where we have done nothing against the law
I smell bacon?
I agree with redfive48. Once u commit a crime, id would be required.
Clear somthing up
I know its been 4.5 months since someone posted in this thread but Im looking somthing up for a friend and need to clear somthing up and did not fell like starting a new thread to do it.
We are clear that North Carolina has no Stop and Identify Statutes, you are not required in a concentual encounter or a terry stop to show ID to an officer, however I keep hearing that you do have to provide you name and DOB when asked, Not always in the form of ID you may tell the officer.
Can anyone cite this or back this up?
For me it was NCGS 14-223; Resist, Delay, or Obstruct a Public Officer. Will this stick? I HIGHLY doubt it, my attorney HIGHLY doubts it, and even the DA is wondering what else MUST have been going on for this charge to have been hanged on me, but with all the bureaucracy involved we have yet to all make it in the same room at the same time to discuss. But I should know for sure very soon, and details will follow (talk about delaying, this arrest was in December and it's still yet to be put in front of a judge).
They tend to use NCGS 14-223 alot I also have a pending charge of it (for a different reason). Thanks for the info and best of luck