I've been looking at the Missouri Revised Statutes and cannot find anywhere where open carrying in a bar is illegal as far as State law is concerned. I was looking for more help on this topic. I have a friend who owns a bar and sometimes we have private poker games or poker tournys there on Sundays when the bar is closed with anywhere from 10-20 of us who are all friends and aquaintances. The thought has crossed my mind while playing that if some crook looked through a window and saw a big card game going that he might be tempted to walk in and rob us. I would like to carry my firearm at these games.
Sometimes I hang out at his bar when its open and if I am driving I don't drink but if my wife drops me off and picks me back up, I will drink. I am unsure of the laws as far as having a weapon in the car with me if I am riding passenger and somewhat intoxicated. I usually have a concealed weapon in the car but I leave it at home if I get dropped off at the bar. Even if its illegal to carry while intoxicated (which I don't find anything that says I can't in Missouri as of yet) but if it is illegal, can the firearm be under my seat, in the glovebox or under my wife's seat or does it have to be in the trunk? Should it be in my wife's purse? Basically, I am armed on the way to the bar, I drink enough to be considered drunk and now I have that firearm in my car while being driven home.
I just wanted to start a discussion on this topic and tap into anyone else's knowledge of any laws in regards to carrying in a bar in general, and/or carrying while intoxicated while outside a bar or as a passenger in a car.
I am just concerned with State law at this time.
Here's a link to Missouri Revised Statutes:
http://www.moga.mo.gov/STATUTES/STATUTES.htm
Here's a link to RSMO Chapter 571 - Weapons Offenses:
http://www.moga.mo.gov/STATUTES/C571.HTM
Here's a link to RSMO 571.030 - Illegal Use of Weapons:
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5710000030.HTM
Here's a link to 571.107 Endorsement does not authorize concealed firearms, where--
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5710000107.HTM
In this one 571.107.1 subsection (7)
Where it basically states that your permit doesn't allow you to carry "concealed" in a place dispensing alcohol for consumption such that its that business's primary purpose without the owner's consent. Also, it says "Nothing in this subdivision authorizes any individual who has been issued a concealed carry endorsement to possess any firearm while intoxicated"
now, that says the endorsement doesn't authorize it but it leads me to believe that somewhere within the law that it may be illegal but this statement alone doesn't forbid it from what I can tell. Also, you don't have to have an endorsement to possess a firearm anyways.
I'll keep looking through the laws as I do want to carry when possible and legal to do so. I am not interested in going armed in public while being plastered either.
Sometimes I hang out at his bar when its open and if I am driving I don't drink but if my wife drops me off and picks me back up, I will drink. I am unsure of the laws as far as having a weapon in the car with me if I am riding passenger and somewhat intoxicated. I usually have a concealed weapon in the car but I leave it at home if I get dropped off at the bar. Even if its illegal to carry while intoxicated (which I don't find anything that says I can't in Missouri as of yet) but if it is illegal, can the firearm be under my seat, in the glovebox or under my wife's seat or does it have to be in the trunk? Should it be in my wife's purse? Basically, I am armed on the way to the bar, I drink enough to be considered drunk and now I have that firearm in my car while being driven home.
I just wanted to start a discussion on this topic and tap into anyone else's knowledge of any laws in regards to carrying in a bar in general, and/or carrying while intoxicated while outside a bar or as a passenger in a car.
I am just concerned with State law at this time.
Here's a link to Missouri Revised Statutes:
http://www.moga.mo.gov/STATUTES/STATUTES.htm
Here's a link to RSMO Chapter 571 - Weapons Offenses:
http://www.moga.mo.gov/STATUTES/C571.HTM
Here's a link to RSMO 571.030 - Illegal Use of Weapons:
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5710000030.HTM
Here's a link to 571.107 Endorsement does not authorize concealed firearms, where--
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C500-599/5710000107.HTM
In this one 571.107.1 subsection (7)
Where it basically states that your permit doesn't allow you to carry "concealed" in a place dispensing alcohol for consumption such that its that business's primary purpose without the owner's consent. Also, it says "Nothing in this subdivision authorizes any individual who has been issued a concealed carry endorsement to possess any firearm while intoxicated"
now, that says the endorsement doesn't authorize it but it leads me to believe that somewhere within the law that it may be illegal but this statement alone doesn't forbid it from what I can tell. Also, you don't have to have an endorsement to possess a firearm anyways.
I'll keep looking through the laws as I do want to carry when possible and legal to do so. I am not interested in going armed in public while being plastered either.