Thread: U.S. Security Clearances
I might have flown members who don't exist of your organization which doesn't exist to destinations which don't exist.
Can I "tell all?" Heck no! Ask me again in 50 years, as per the contract we all signed.
At that time, I may or may not, of my own volition, decide to tell you or tell you not what you or may not want to know at the time.
Until then, I'll do my very best to remain within any and all guidance and restrictians of which I'm aware...
One who truly honors the confidences bestowed upon him as a result of the level of trust his clearance grants him does not announce, "I know something you don't know."
I could tell ya... but then I'd have to kill ya. How bad ya want'a know?
Not that bad!
"My dedication to my country's flag rests on my ardent belief in this noblest of causes, equality for all. If my future rests under this earth rather than upon it, I fear not."
-Leopold Karpeles, US Civil War Medal of Honor Recipient
Our contract read 75 years. How'd you get off with only 50?
I just can't talk about it. Period.
"Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six."
"These are not the Droids you're looking for" as a hand moves gently side to side in front of your eyes!
The CIA assets who flew cocaine by the ton into Mena AR in th eearly 1990's all had clearances.
The Halliburton/KBR and Dyncorp contractors who flew kidnapped children from the Balkans to other parts of Europe for use as sex slaves by UN officials and corporate execs had clearances.
It was a security-clearance-holding FBI agent who built the bomb for Emad Salem (and FBI informant inserted into the Ramzi Yousef organization), a fact which came out in the federal investigations.
NYC FBI agents and the NYC DA (who had security clearances) helped New York City Colombo Mafiosi, Gregory Scarpa, Jr, commit and cover up multiple Mob-related murders in the early 2000's...
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society."
--John F. Kennedy
Last edited by Dreamer; 01-19-2011 at 11:50 PM.
It is our cause to dispel the foggy thinking which avoids hard decisions in the delusion that a world of conflict will somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony, if we just don't rock the boat or irritate the forces of aggression—and this is hogwash."
--Barry Goldwater, 1964
I was trained at KCI for a screener posistion a few years back and I don't even think I am supposed to say anything about THAT training from Lockheed Martin.
I would love to get into the CIA after I get through college though as a research scientist...probably some highly interesting work =P
I held a secret level, but so did most of the USAF lol. Heck, even a TS clearance was easy to get once you had your secret... you just had to have a job which required it. Once you held a clearance, it doesn't take much to renew or upgrade it if you wanted to work in the civi sector too
Btw, aliens are real right?
Last edited by McX; 02-16-2011 at 10:50 AM.
are you having a brain fart?
everybodys got a secret,
and everybody knows that!
should we all start treating you special?
once, i asked eye95 to just shut up!
now im imploring you, to just shut up!!!!
is this thread aimed at demonstrating that you went on to do X+, because you studied Chaucer??
Last edited by 1245A Defender; 01-27-2011 at 07:30 AM.
EMNofSeattle wrote: Your idea of freedom terrifies me. So you are actually right. I am perfectly happy with what you call tyranny.....
“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”
Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...
All power is inherent in the people,
it is their right and duty to be at all times ARMED!
I have no knowledge of any such operation. Nor would I be at liberty to discuss said operation if it existed.
No Such Agency
This site has been hijacked by leftists who attack opposition to further their own ends. Those who have never served this country and attack those who do are no longer worthy of my time or attention.
I'm amazed at how well the security training stuck - I still won't talk about stuff that was probably declassified 35 years ago.
No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: The officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets. -- Edward Abbey
• • • Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Faciémus!• • •
They won't tell me secrets. They know I'll tell everyone else, then they won't have any.
Will RogersThe thing about common sense is....it ain't too common.
Keeping secrets, yeah sure, try keeping secrets from the guy you work with. The guy who signs off your work knows what you did, but doesn't know why you did it. You can't explain. Because he wasn't briefed. "Just do it, don't ask, just do." As I'm pulling my hair out of my head.
I was taught a very simple phrase, from .. well... I was taught a very simple phrase.
"those that know, don't say. Those that say, don't know"
Keep that in mind
Just because you have one level of clearance, doesn't mean you get access to everything that requires the level of clearance you have. You still must have a "need to know."
Please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the "Whistle Blower Protection Act" protect people bound by confidentiality agreements when they are disclosing classified activity that is also unlawful activity? If your commander gives you an op-order brief and begins by announcing that "what he is about to tell you is classified top secret," then goes on to tell you that you are to break up into teams and begin going house to house confiscating weapons from lawfully armed civilians in the united states, I doubt you can be disciplined for blowing the whistle as the orders you were given were not lawful orders.
Last edited by Nevada carrier; 02-05-2011 at 01:27 PM.
For the answer to all secrets, go to "Area 51". Just wait by the gate and someone will be along to tell you everything you need to know.