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OT? Could we be violating state law accidently?

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onlurker

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xylex said:
I did find a BATF letter about having spare M16 parts for a legally owned M16 while owning an AR-15 could be considered having an illegal machine gun - http://www.titleii.com/bardwell/atf_letter90.txt Same parts ownership rules would apply to SBR parts.
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The rules for SBRs seem to apply only to the short barreled uppers and not the other parts that would classify something as a rifle per the ATF. However, I did find this portion interesting:

"An individual possessing more than one short (less than 16 inches)
barreled upper receiver for a registered AR15 machinegun along with
one or more semiautomatic AR15 rifles would have under their
possession of control an unregistered short barreled rifle, a
violation of the NFA."

I wonder if the same applies to a semiautomatic AR15, since it would appear that the ATF is saying that owning a short barreled upper (like if you're building a pistol) means you're then in possession of an SBR if you happen to own other minimum length AR15 rifles.
 
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onlurker said:
The rules for SBRs seem to apply only to the short barreled uppers and not the other parts that would classify something as a rifle per the ATF. However, I did find this portion interesting:

"An individual possessing more than one short (less than 16 inches)
barreled upper receiver for a registered AR15 machinegun along with
one or more semiautomatic AR15 rifles would have under their
possession of control an unregistered short barreled rifle, a
violation of the NFA."

I wonder if the same applies to a semiautomatic AR15, since it would appear that the ATF is saying that owning a short barreled upper (like if you're building a pistol) means you're then in possession of an SBR if you happen to own other minimum length AR15 rifles.
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Why you wouldn't be suggesting that someone might own a "pistol" and a "rifle" and then swap them around as they wanted, would you? Why that would just downright be breaking the rules. Nobody would do that, would they?

If one had a complete SBR upper, ready to be mated to a lower, that would be far different than just possessing the barrel. It takes a little more than just "two pins" to change a barrel.
 
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amlevin said:
Why you wouldn't be suggesting that someone might own a "pistol" and a "rifle" and then swap them around as they wanted, would you? Why that would just downright be breaking the rules. Nobody would do that, would they?
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Of course not, I'm simply trying to understand this particular law so as to not break it, just like everyone else. The wording in the law just seems a little too ambiguous to me especially when you consider the ATF's interpretation since they're suppose to be the deciding party on such matters.
 
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