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    OT: well sort of...CPL..

    so, when I go in to renew my license here in just a little bit... do I have to
    surrender the old one or do I get to keep using it until the new one arrives
    or ??? thanks in advance....
    I aim with my eye... I shoot with my mind... I kill with my heart....
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    It has been brought to my attention that the stick figure decals on
    the back windows of vehicles are NOT pedestrian 'kill' scores, but are
    actually meant to represent family members. I'll be removing mine
    ASAP to avoid any further confusion.........

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    If memory serves me right, you keep your old one until the new one arrives. Laws read that you MUST have your CPL on your person if concealling a pistol on you or in your vehicle. You couldn't do this if they took your old one and you had to wait for the new one to arrive.

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    When I renewed mine, the new one was issued on the spot.
    Otherwise I would suspect that you would keep your current one as it is not expired.
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    this is what I was guessing... but you just never know...
    I aim with my eye... I shoot with my mind... I kill with my heart....
    - The Gunslinger's Litany (paraphrased)

    It has been brought to my attention that the stick figure decals on
    the back windows of vehicles are NOT pedestrian 'kill' scores, but are
    actually meant to represent family members. I'll be removing mine
    ASAP to avoid any further confusion.........

    First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire.

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    Yes… you keep the old one until the new one arrives on your mailbox, It suppose to take 3 to 4 weeks, I just renew mine last week,... (of course, I’m still waiting).
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    Renewed in April

    with LESA in Tacoma.... 90 days early....
    Kept mine....
    They sent in the mail...
    I still have all of my CPL for the last 20 years... locked in my safe...
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    Lesa?
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    I aim with my eye... I shoot with my mind... I kill with my heart....
    - The Gunslinger's Litany (paraphrased)

    It has been brought to my attention that the stick figure decals on
    the back windows of vehicles are NOT pedestrian 'kill' scores, but are
    actually meant to represent family members. I'll be removing mine
    ASAP to avoid any further confusion.........

    First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire.

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    L.e.s.a.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilead_Gunslinger View Post
    Lesa?
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    That's where I renew mine… is an option for applying or renewing your CPL, depending on where do you live and, if you are a Washington state resident...check the link below...

    http://www.lesa.net/records.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by reillo584 View Post
    Law Enforcement Support Agency
    That's where I renew mine… is an option for applying or renewing your CPL, depending on where do you live and, if you are a Washington state resident...check the link below...

    http://www.lesa.net/records.shtml
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    "To apply through LESA you must have your primary residence within Pierce County. The only exception to this rule is for those individuals who live outside of Washington state. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Daddy View Post
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    "To apply through LESA you must have your primary residence within Pierce County. The only exception to this rule is for those individuals who live outside of Washington state. "
    Thanks for the extra info...

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    also, Kent police said to keep your renewal receipt on you as that will keep you legal even if you go past the expiration date on your current CPL before the new one shows up...
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    I just posted out an AG opinion on out of county issuance in another thread, residence is not required, that may only apply to Sheriff though.

    I might have to go read it more thoroughly now.

    http://www.atg.wa.gov/AGOOpinions/op...=topic&id=6850
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    Reading the current 9.41.070 it looks like it has been changed/updated several times since this AG Opinion was issued.

    Quiter possibly, the language requiring residency was added after.
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    I will be applying for a CPL soon. My problem is, I live in Bellingham, Whatcom co. I know I should not expect difficulty before doing this, but, I live in bellingham. Would I have less animosity from the Whatcom Co LEOs for requesting a CPL?

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    if you live within the city limits, you have to apply to Bellingham PD. you don't get to pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gogodawgs View Post
    with LESA in Tacoma.... 90 days early....
    Kept mine....
    They sent in the mail...
    I still have all of my CPL for the last 20 years... locked in my safe...
    But do you have one of the "really old ones" that were merely typed out on an 8-1/2 x 11 sheet of paper? My first was just that, issued in 1964 by King County Sheriff's Dept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HK_dave View Post
    if you live within the city limits, you have to apply to Bellingham PD. you don't get to pick.
    HK Dave, that is incorrect. If he resides in a municipality, he may apply to either the Municipality PD or to the County. His choice.

    Example: I live in Kenmore, but I always apply and renew at KCSO, even tho Kenmore has its own PD.

    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.070
    RCW 9.41.070
    Concealed pistol license — Application — Fee — Renewal.
    (13) A person may apply for a concealed pistol license:

    (a) To the municipality or to the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in a municipality;

    (b) To the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in an unincorporated area; or

    (c) Anywhere in the state if the applicant is a nonresident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HK_dave View Post
    if you live within the city limits, you have to apply to Bellingham PD. you don't get to pick.
    No, if you live in the city you can go to either the city OR the county. If you live in the county you can only go to the county

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    No, if you live in the city you can go to either the city OR the county. If you live in the county you can only go to the county
    Tried that here in Yakima, went to Sheriffs Office to renew but was directed to the City PD as I live in the City.

    RCW 9.41.070 Concealed pistol license -- Application -- Fee -- Renewal.

    (13) A person may apply for a concealed pistol license:

    (a) To the municipality or to the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in a municipality;

    (b) To the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in an unincorporated area; or

    (c) Anywhere in the state if the applicant is a nonresident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    Tried that here in Yakima, went to Sheriffs Office to renew but was directed to the City PD as I live in the City.
    Were you turned away by a secretary/clerk or the sheriff?

    My brother applied at SCSO when he lived within Mill Creek city limits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Laigaie View Post
    I will be applying for a CPL soon. My problem is, I live in Bellingham, Whatcom co. I know I should not expect difficulty before doing this, but, I live in bellingham. Would I have less animosity from the Whatcom Co LEOs for requesting a CPL?
    Nah it's painless they fingerprint ya send you on your way, as long as you are clear you will get it on the 30th day.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    No, if you live in the city you can go to either the city OR the county. If you live in the county you can only go to the county
    well when i went to the KCSO they told me i had to go to Kent PD as i was within Kent city limits.
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    I live IN Seattle and went to the KCSO. They issued without comment. KCSO does require you to go to their HQ in downtown Seattle though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    Tried that here in Yakima, went to Sheriffs Office to renew but was directed to the City PD as I live in the City.

    RCW 9.41.070 Concealed pistol license -- Application -- Fee -- Renewal.

    (13) A person may apply for a concealed pistol license:

    (a) To the municipality or to the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in a municipality;

    (b) To the county in which the applicant resides if the applicant resides in an unincorporated area; or

    (c) Anywhere in the state if the applicant is a nonresident.
    They want you to go to the right place because it affects the way the money is divided. Isn't that always the way it is. About the money?

    Does it really take close to $60 to cover the cost of the paper and time involved for a CPL? This is the electronic age and not everything takes hours of manual processing by dozens of people (unless you ask a public employee union rep).

    Wonder how many of these "checks" are done in an hour by a clerk making about $20 or so per hour?

    Just another source of revenue for all who touch it.
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    went in to lesa (once you told me, I realized this is where I got my CPL the first time) after work friday.. hit security with hardly anyone in line...got upstairs...waited in that line about 20 minutes.. five or six people in front of me was all... and back out the door I went... pretty easy peasy all the way round...

    oh and for those wondering, I (gasp!) went in unarmed to speed my way through security... of course I still had my brain with me and that is after all the deadlist weapon we posses...

    thanks for all the input...

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    I aim with my eye... I shoot with my mind... I kill with my heart....
    - The Gunslinger's Litany (paraphrased)

    It has been brought to my attention that the stick figure decals on
    the back windows of vehicles are NOT pedestrian 'kill' scores, but are
    actually meant to represent family members. I'll be removing mine
    ASAP to avoid any further confusion.........

    First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire.

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