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    Observation from Puyallup gunshow today

    That was the busiest Iv'e seen it in a while.As GoGo said we passed out alot of pamphlets and talked to alot of of folks.Some of the most common comments I got were "yeah it may be legal but the cops hassle you" They are quite surprised when they see some iof the pics and here our experiences.
    One goof i was talking to was saying that he new it was legal but all the different city ordances will get you in trouble.Especially where he lived in Moses Lake where he said they had gun ban signs in the city parks. I was getting a little preturbed.I explained State preemption, that we have been instumental in getting many cities to take the signs down.Also about the Seattle ban and how it was defeated.Why don't they fight that out there as well?
    HEres what really chapped my a$$.He said it wasn't worth the hassle so he and his friends leave there guns at home.I really have a problem with people like that ,cowards that won't take a stand because it might be a hassle.Even when its right.They let the politicians DICTATE as they bow and cower to their percieved authority.Yet these are sometimes the ones that bitch the loudest when they loose their rights.Makes me more thankful for the people I hang with.

    We had a great bunch helping and stopping by,GoGo who no one out logics.Paddy,Ed the new guy who did a super job first time doing the table.Flanders moving mountains of shirts and stickers.KWIEBE stopped by,Triggerdoc,Phoneguy,and of course Squeak who just sat in his underwear and scratched.Somefolks found that odd.HE won a new gun ya know...he'll tell you!

    The Chaplin for the Des Moines police happened to stop by.He asked me if we ever had problems with their officers.I said no .He said its because of our efforts,the defeat of the parks ban training bulletins and all the rest has convinced them to basically leave us be.Also he said Tom Brewster's incident had a great infuence on the way they conduct themselves with open carry.So as you can see all of you are making a huge impact in keeping our Constitutional rights.

    Dave Workman who said he will again speak at our 2A rally.

    Yeah ,I get to hang with some awesome folks.....It's one of the things that keep me going.
    Was a good day!

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    While reading your third paragraph I wondered how your Heart Monitor was doing. Probably looked like that gadget that monitors Lightning Strikes for the weather bureau.

    If more people like the ones you spoke with from Moses Lake would take time to read the pamphlet you were handing out they wouldn't be leaving their guns at home. Unfortunately, ignorance just breeds more ignorance.
    "If I shoot all the ammo I am carrying I either won't need anymore or more won't help"

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    Thumbs up 2A rally

    where/when? Guess I'll go peruse the rest of the threads...

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    I understand the frustration passionate OC's must feel when hearing folks like the guy from Moses Lake coughing up excuses. However I don't necessarily agree that's it's always a result of cowardice. The reality is it can be costly to be right. For many people the risk of causing a stir, possibly being arrested for breaking some no-weapons-allowed law, or worse, being accused of terrorizing a bystander, is simply not a burden they are willing to bear, even though they may be right, and vindicated.

    I think you guys who fight the good fight to OC are very brave, and I have nothing but admiration for you. In this case though, I don't believe bravery and cowardice are the two sides of the same coin. Just my 2 cents

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    We were looking at doing a meet in Moses lake this Spring/Early summer. Now that the RV is ready, I say lets plan a date......

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    This is a good time for someone in the Moses Lake area to step up, there is no lack of resources or help to assist them in moving this ahead.

    All it takes is for someone to have enough desire to stand up and say something instead of just sitting and waiting for someone else to do it for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    This is a good time for someone in the Moses Lake area to step up, there is no lack of resources or help to assist them in moving this ahead.

    All it takes is for someone to have enough desire to stand up and say something instead of just sitting and waiting for someone else to do it for them.
    Considering that Moses Lake is in the middle of the state, most of their people probably figure they're in the middle when it comes to any argument. Neither one side or the other.
    "If I shoot all the ammo I am carrying I either won't need anymore or more won't help"

    "If you refuse to stand up for others now, who will stand up for you when your time comes?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1Gunr View Post
    We were looking at doing a meet in Moses lake this Spring/Early summer. Now that the RV is ready, I say lets plan a date......
    I think right after the 2A event would be good.

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    I wonder where we would be if the folks that stood up agaist the Brits would have said,Well you know I have a family so I don't want to cause problems ,I may get fired.You know taking on the British could be a big hassle and we may end up in front of a firing squad .These guys are the first Veterans.Folks think they wrote the Declaration of independence and it was done.It took11 years to win the freedoms we have.These guys left their families,their farms,their shops for years knowing they may never see it all again.But they never ever quit because it was a hassle or they might get arrested or whatever.
    Many in this state ,not just open carry have been to court and dealt with hassles to keep our rights.Not to mention those oversees now who put it all on the line.Or those of us Vets here just on this board that lived in horrid conditions away from our families protecting those freedoms. How dare anyone do less!
    The parks gun ban was defeated and Seattle had to take down their signs.So if you go to a park armed in Moses Lake for ex.so what if a cop hassles you.You have precedent on your side.Some of these cops count on people just caving in because they are all about their own egos and agendas.One can say no to an officer! If one is carrying and a cop asked for ID because you are carrying and no crime has been commited ,why would you show him ID.It's non of their business who we are.
    As far as folks saying it scares them..SO!
    So lets all stand up for our right to bear arms or loose it.

    I guess we'll go to Moses Lake and have a big gathering in one of the parks.We had a gathering in Vancouver at a park as we walked by the gun ban signs.The LE their didn't say anything.

    Notice m1gunr leaning on the park sign that said guns are banned.And Gray holding one of the signs taken down from Seattle parks. So why again would someone disarm before going to the park in Moses Lake???
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    This is all I have to say.

    "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands, which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

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    Pick a date for Moses Lake I'll be there.

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    Count me in. I was more than happy to be there for the gun show today with Paddy and the others. I finally took the time to re-register btw (yes I finally got off my butt and did it!), and I can say that seeing the events in plain view and having updates here works out better than asking by word of mouth all the time.

    I'm just curious as to how that event would turn out if we went to a park open carrying and the police showed up looking to cuff a couple of people. I fortunately haven't run into any such activity no matter where I have been in Lakewood or Tacoma, same with Puyallup.

    Anyways to get back onto the gun show, it went great I thought. It was nice to see as many people coming up even asking about shirts, but also to generally talk and ask questions about Open Carry. I was quite pleased with the amount of people I saw coming up as I was browsing around after Paddy had run off.

    Just my two cents.

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    Well said orphan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEROS72 View Post
    Well said orphan!
    Sam said it not me, I just happen to agree with him.

    If you are afraid to exercise your rights you are essentailly a slave, its really quite simple.

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    Agreed and those are the ones that would fold like a lawn chair if they were threatend if they didn't turn in their guns.These are the folks that if they the gov declared an emergency and said we had to turn in firearms would clamouring to get in the front of the line so they wouldn't inconvenience thier families.

    "those that would give up freedom for safety deserve neither" BEn Franklin

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    As the wife and I were returning from the gunshow today, we stopped and walked across the narrows bridge, just for the exercise. Bad luck hit us as she slipped and fell. Her gun went over the side and as I tried to catch it, Mine fell out of my serpa and went in the water too. I don't know what to do as those were the only two guns we had left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    As the wife and I were returning from the gunshow today, we stopped and walked across the narrows bridge, just for the exercise. Bad luck hit us as she slipped and fell. Her gun went over the side and as I tried to catch it, Mine fell out of my serpa and went in the water too. I don't know what to do as those were the only two guns we had left.
    Damm serpa holsters. They'll get you every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    As the wife and I were returning from the gunshow today, we stopped and walked across the narrows bridge, just for the exercise. Bad luck hit us as she slipped and fell. Her gun went over the side and as I tried to catch it, Mine fell out of my serpa and went in the water too. I don't know what to do as those were the only two guns we had left.
    Wait a minute, I thought you lost all your guns in a "boating accident" a few months back...or was that someone else?

    Dang, those boating accidents are just so common, its hard to keep track of all the losses. There has got to be an entire "arsenal" at the bottom of Lake Washington by now.

    <taps plays in the background for the pair of lost pistols>

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCDH View Post
    Wait a minute, I thought you lost all your guns in a "boating accident" a few months back...or was that someone else?

    Dang, those boating accidents are just so common, its hard to keep track of all the losses. There has got to be an entire "arsenal" at the bottom of Lake Washington by now.

    <taps plays in the background for the pair of lost pistols>
    I've never understood the 9th Commandment against bearing false Witness.

    Why on earth would anybody carry a counterfeit EAA semi-auto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCDH View Post
    Wait a minute, I thought you lost all your guns in a "boating accident" a few months back...or was that someone else?

    Dang, those boating accidents are just so common, its hard to keep track of all the losses. There has got to be an entire "arsenal" at the bottom of Lake Washington by now.

    <taps plays in the background for the pair of lost pistols>
    I did, but bought two more last week. good thing it happened with a witness. ( would not want to carry those)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEROS72 View Post
    SNIP...cowards that won't take a stand because it might be a hassle.Even when its right.They let the politicians DICTATE as they bow and cower to their percieved authority.
    They must have been blood of the same loyalist cowardly trash we had to content with during our fight for independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    I've never understood the 9th Commandment against bearing false Witness.

    Why on earth would anybody carry a counterfeit EAA semi-auto?

    Good question... Jim carries a real one, though. Its shiny too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    I've never understood the 9th Commandment against bearing false Witness.

    Why on earth would anybody carry a counterfeit EAA semi-auto?

    Cheap shot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by G20-IWB24/7 View Post
    Good question... Jim carries a real one, though. Its shiny too!
    Thats right....Give me a shiny object and I can entertain myself for hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEROS72 View Post
    Notice m1gunr leaning on the park sign that said guns are banned.And Gray holding one of the signs taken down from Seattle parks. So why again would someone disarm before going to the park in Moses Lake???
    I'm sorry if I am way behind the ball on this one but did we win the fight with Seattle? Last I herd the city had a law suite pending. Did I miss something? I'm hoping so.

    On a side note I wanted to say great job by everyone who helped out in Puyallup and a very sincere thank you for helping to stand up for my rights. The gun show would have been something I would have loved to help out with. I'm sure you guys posted something on the forum but I must have missed it.
    "Fight like you train, train like you fight"

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire suppressor View Post
    I'm sorry if I am way behind the ball on this one but did we win the fight with Seattle? Last I herd the city had a law suite pending. Did I miss something? I'm hoping so.

    <SNIP>
    They did lose their case in a King County Superior Court, but they have an appeal pending that will likely be followed ultimately to the state Supreme Court since the law-firm that is representing them is doing so free of charge. Since the state Supreme Court has already ruled that the 2nd amendment applies to Washington, they have a snowballs chance in **** on winning their appeal in the end, they are simply going through the motions of defiance at this point.

    KCSC ruled that state preemption holds and that Seattle was in violation, the signs were ordered taken down, and all attempts at enforcement stop. Do some searching and you will find the threads where this has been discussed.
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