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    Mexican gun smugglers identified as the BATF itself by BATF employees!!

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=253993


    Yes Employees and insiders at the BATF are openly accusing the BATF of smuggling guns from the USA to Mexican drug runners to make it appear the guns from US gun shops and citizens are being sent to Mexico, when as accused the BATF was actually doing this to justify it's own budget and existence. For the many who forgot or didn't know, the WACO siege was named by the BATF as "Operation Show time" because congress was in the process of a vote to de-fund the BATF and close it forever, and turn over it's operations to the FBI. Also those who may remember when Ronald Regan ran for President he said he was going to shut down the BATF because of their history of criminal actions. Now once again the BATF has been caught committing felonies as accused by their own employees, or gun running and of a literal plan to smear American gun owners to once again thwart congress in it's plans to de-fund the BATF. Why is the Media covering this up?


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    Exo 22:2 "If anyone catches a thief breaking in and hits him so that he dies, he is not guilty of murder.
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    Nice find man, this is one reason I'm glad you're here.

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    Amazing
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    Holy crap.
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    More on the gun runner ATF fiasco. If they got away with this it would be a win win for the ATF, they would be able to get congress to enact more sweeping restriction's legal gun owners and get more funding.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...smuggled-rifle

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m32E14g3nN0


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-i28SvAMJA&NR=1
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    Exo 22:2 "If anyone catches a thief breaking in and hits him so that he dies, he is not guilty of murder.
    Luke 22:36: "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luk 11:21 "When a strong man, with all his weapons ready, guards his own house, all his belongings are safe.

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    ...[I]t just goes to Show you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailenforcer View Post
    More on the gun runner ATF fiasco. If they got away with this it would be a win win for the ATF, they would be able to get congress to enact more sweeping restriction's legal gun owners and get more funding.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...smuggled-rifle

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m32E14g3nN0


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-i28SvAMJA&NR=1
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    Old news

    This story has been out for several weeks. Those interested can start following this on the BATF's own gripe site: Cleanupbatf.org. The Whitehouse has been in the know for around 2 weeks now.
    The major bummer seems to be that this is getting no play in the mainstream media at all. For more info you can follow "project gunwalker" on the web at "Sipsey street Irregulars".

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    this, once again, points out that police are human and often worse criminals (and people) than the people they police.

    i am realistic. i know everything is not black and white (but, it should be). there is a lot of grey area.

    statistically, CPL holders are less likely to commit crime (per capita) than police.

    i do not know where i am going with this, except to say these are the kind of people who police us. maybe they need to stop some real crime and clean up their own ranks before harassing good people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricianLU58 View Post

    statistically, CPL holders are less likely to commit crime (per capita) than police.

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    It would be interesting if you had a cite. I know that's not always possible, we all remember what we know, but not always where we learned it.

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    The only serious threat to freedom is one's own .gov. So as to not let that cat out of the bag, the .gov creates a variety of bogeymen to distract one's attention. But sometimes they get caught in the act...

    This story will get buried VERY quickly so that the sheep do not become aware of the true creators of the bogeymen.
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    Sounds like speculation and rumors to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kubel View Post
    Sounds like speculation and rumors to me.
    Very much so. Right up until it goes to court. That's when it will get interesting.
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    Fox News is on this now-

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...g-guns-mexico/

    Last Friday, Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) sent a letter to the ATF stating that his office had "received numerous allegations that the ATF sanctioned the sale of hundreds of assault weapons to suspected straw purchasers, who then allegedly transported these weapons throughout the Southwest border area and into Mexico."

    Grassley asked for ATF officials to meet with his staff to discuss the matter, noting that "there are serious concerns that the ATF may have become careless, if not negligent, in implementing the Gunrunner strategy." Gunrunner is the name of the ATF operation to keep guns from entering Mexico.

    On Monday, a concerned Grassley sent a follow-up letter, writing that while ATF had not yet responded to his request for a meeting, one of the whistleblowers that Grassley's office had been dealing with -- a current ATF employee -- was "allegedly accused... of misconduct" by his boss for talking with Senate staffers.

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