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    No Constitutional Carry? Blame Republicans

    The Republicans are in complete control, they can do whatever they WANT to do:

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    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

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    Last year they changed their party platform to no permit carry. How will they explain and justify if they do differently?
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    We must contact our lawmakers today, tomorrow and the next day to remind them of Constitutional Carry.
    Laws are not written because of the actions of many, they are wrtiten because of the inactions of many.

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    Exclamation Constitutional Carry Passage is up to US!

    Quote Originally Posted by Flipper View Post
    The Republicans are in complete control, they can do whatever they WANT to do:....
    Then it's up to us to CONVINCE them to pass our Bill....
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    I helped vote them into power as I'm sure most of you did too. What we need to make a stand on is elected public servants acting true to their words. The party line says 'no permit carry'. If our elected servants deviate from their promises, we will remove them from power with our votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehighways View Post
    I helped vote them into power as I'm sure most of you did too. What we need to make a stand on is elected public servants acting true to their words. The party line says 'no permit carry'. If our elected servants deviate from their promises, we will remove them from power with our votes.
    D@mn Straight!

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    They need to be reminded that ANTI'S DID NOT VOTE THEM IN.

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    Only partially right, you also need to spread blame to ourselves. We elected them, we are the ones who would let the second amendment slip away. With that in mind remember the silent majority is just that, silent. If we let people like Gene German get their way and force mandatory training down our throats so they can fill their pockets, is it right to apply full blame to the elected officials? Be the thorn in their side, make sure they know who you are. Let them see your name and sigh, saying "not him again".
    What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?

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    Some Democrats may vote for the bill to curry favor with firearm owners. Alternatively they could agree in their caucus not to submit any admendments that provide regulation and requirements to a clean Constitutional Carry bill. That way they could claim that they could not in good conscience vote to allow guns to be carried without regulation and requirements.

    The Republicans have a large enough majority in the Senate and Assembly that their caucus could allow a "free vote" to some Rebublicans to vote against a clean bill for the same reason. It comes down to that the Republicans can pass any bill they wish to.

    WCI, the NRA, other firearm freedom organizations, firearm owners, TEA Party members and other conservative organizations need to keep pushing....in one direction.

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    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

    The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lFundingR1.png

    "Everything that we see is a shadow cast by that which we do not see." - Martin Luther King Jr.

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    Let's just say I've contact my reps once again today. I think I'll be doing a weekly email. I should call as well, but we'll see how lazy I am.
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    How about working from within?

    We joined the LaCrosse county republican party a couple of years ago. My wife is now on the executive board, and was just appointed 2A coordinator.
    If you join the party at the county level, your influence can be much greater. If we get enough people on board and get the right people elected to leadership positions, we can have a much greater impact on the representatives. It's far easier to pressure them to follow the party platform when you can do it from within.
    LaCrosse is having the caucus to elect a new board on Feb 16. You have to be a member at least 10 days before that to be able to vote. I don't know when the rest of the county partys are having theirs, but you should be able to find out easily enough. We need more vocal 2A supporters working from within at the county level throughout the state.
    If you live in LaCrosse county, and want more info, PM me. If you don't, check into your county party. Now is the time!

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    The Republicans just gained control of Congress and they do not control the Senate. Just a reminder.

    I think it is important to push on both parties, especially the Republicans. The Republican have jumped on the Constitutional bandwagon during the election. Let's see if it was political rhetoric or if they will follow Constitutional Principles.

    Open carry is one of our 2nd Amendment rights. That right shall not be infringed. We need to remind politicians that we will stand up for that right without compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot Prepper View Post
    The Republicans just gained control of Congress and they do not control the Senate. Just a reminder.

    I think it is important to push on both parties, especially the Republicans. The Republican have jumped on the Constitutional bandwagon during the election. Let's see if it was political rhetoric or if they will follow Constitutional Principles.

    Open carry is one of our 2nd Amendment rights. That right shall not be infringed. We need to remind politicians that we will stand up for that right without compromise.
    We are talking about the Wisconsin State Senate and Assembly. In Wisconsin we have a once in a lifetime chance to get legislation that confirms the American and Wisconsin Constitutionals rights to bear arms.
    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

    The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipper View Post
    The Republicans are in complete control, they can do whatever they WANT to do:
    And what do you expect would happen should the Dems take control in the future if the Republicans play power games? Would you like it if the Dems would erase our hard earned progress just to spite us? Working together will maintain more continuity for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot Prepper View Post
    ..Open carry is one of our 2nd Amendment rights. That right shall not be infringed. We need to remind politicians that we will stand up for that right without compromise.
    The US CONUS does not guarantee the ability to OC. The SCOTUS has directly said so. Don't forget that the WI State Constitution is more powerful regarding our right to bear arms than is the 2A. A specific method of carry is not protected so long as you are able to lawfully carry in some manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interceptor_Knight View Post
    And what do you expect would happen should the Dems take control in the future if the Republicans play power games? Would you like it if the Dems would erase our hard earned progress just to spite us? Working together will maintain more continuity for the future.
    They will try, given the anti-firearm Milwaukee-Madison lock on the Democrat party. Another reason if you live in a traditionally Democrat district it's better to work for a Blue Dog Democrat rather than a Republican that has no chance.

    The Democrats that would support us, such as Decker, NRA "A" rating, got voted out in the last election.

    Does anyone know if they have a Democrat state senator or representative with an NRA rating of "A" or "B"? I haven't been able to find the NRA ratings for last November state Senate and Assembly races. If anyone knows where they are available, post a link.

    "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty"
    When in danger you can dial 911 and hope for the police to arrive a few minutes later armed with guns.
    Why do police carry guns?

    The Joyce Foundation funded firearm control empire:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lFundingR1.png

    "Everything that we see is a shadow cast by that which we do not see." - Martin Luther King Jr.

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