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    Emanuel cannot run for mayor

    Who said Monday's suck. This is great news for a Monday!

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41235763...ics/?GT1=43001

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    Quote Originally Posted by zack991 View Post
    Rocco: There's two kinds of people in this world when you boil it all down. You got your talkers and you got your doers. Most people are just talkers, all they do is talk. But when it is all said and done, it's the doers that change this world. And when they do that, they change us, and that's why we never forget them. So which one are you? Do you just talk about it, or do you stand up and do something about it? Because believe you me, all the rest of it is just coffee house and bull.
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    Why is it "show and tell" but not "done and said"?

    Show and tell done and said.
    show=done
    tell=said

    I don't see a major difference.

    Show and tell said and done.
    show=said
    tell=done

    Now, there is a major difference.

    So, why is my lovely wife always correcting me when I say "When all is done and said."
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post
    Who said Monday's suck. This is great news for a Monday!

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41235763...ics/?GT1=43001
    Do you think he will probably take it to a higher authority and try to get this ruling overturned?
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    The words of a tyrant: “I never entertain opposing opinions. I am always right.”

    Socialism is just another dirty word for totalitarianism.

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    I heard about that earlier. It bought a smile to my face!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CenTex View Post
    Do you think he will probably take it to a higher authority and try to get this ruling overturned?

    I see him as slippery enough to try. But I don’t see any error in the appeals court decision, nothing for the Illinois Supreme to reverse IMO. Illinois law is clear, the bonehead is just trying the use Obama’s name as some sort of BS claim that he only took up new residency in the name of Obama, and therfore is above the law.
    But I may be bias, as I think he's a POS!

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    I hope he whines and weasels his way onto the ballot. Then I hope through court challenges and such he wins. Then the world will see him for what he is, and the Chicago political system will get back what they sent out to us.
    This site has been hijacked by leftists who attack opposition to further their own ends. Those who have never served this country and attack those who do are no longer worthy of my time or attention.

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    I don't like Emmanuel's politics.

    That being said, I think he is right on this one. Folks go to DC all the time to serve without giving up their residency. Residency is a matter or intent. Assignments by the federal government, in and of themselves, do not change residency.

    Did Emmanuel change his driver's license to DC? Did he file taxes in DC and not IL? Did his personal vehicle have DC or IL tags? Did he maintain IL voting registration? etc.

    If Emmanuel's intent was to return to IL after serving in the White House, typically as demonstrated by maintaining documentary ties to IL, then he maintained his residency, much like my residency did not change every time the AF reassigned me. I did everything to demonstrate my intention to be a TX resident during my first assignment, and then maintained that residency with my DL, absentee voting, etc.

    Now, if Emmanuel did something stupid like not filing taxes in IL while living in DC, then he blew it and demonstrated a lack of intent to be an IL resident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    I don't like Emmanuel's politics.

    That being said, I think he is right on this one. Folks go to DC all the time to serve without giving up their residency. Residency is a matter or intent. Assignments by the federal government, in and of themselves, do not change residency.

    Did Emmanuel change his driver's license to DC? Did he file taxes in DC and not IL? Did his personal vehicle have DC or IL tags? Did he maintain IL voting registration? etc.

    If Emmanuel's intent was to return to IL after serving in the White House, typically as demonstrated by maintaining documentary ties to IL, then he maintained his residency, much like my residency did not change every time the AF reassigned me. I did everything to demonstrate my intention to be a TX resident during my first assignment, and then maintained that residency with my DL, absentee voting, etc.

    Now, if Emmanuel did something stupid like not filing taxes in IL while living in DC, then he blew it and demonstrated a lack of intent to be an IL resident.
    Did you read the ruling? It addressed all that.

    http://www.state.il.us/court/Opinion...ry/1110033.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul@paul-fisher.com View Post
    Did you read the ruling? It addressed all that.

    http://www.state.il.us/court/Opinion...ry/1110033.pdf
    No, I hadn't. It wasn't linked, and I wasn't going to search for it.

    Now I have read it. The court recognizes that Emmanuel DID maintain residence for the purpose of voting. However, they (by some of the most convoluted logic ever) decided that the residency is defined differently when running for office than for voting, creating the odd situation that Emmanuel is a resident of Chicago for voting purposes, but not for candidacy purposes. This is new law in that the courts have not held this before.

    This decision will be appealed. I expect an unbiased review to agree with the simpler and more logical dissent.

    I can only imagine that the judges were biased against Emmanuel and found "logic" to support their predisposed position. This is, after all, Chicago politics. They don't do anything because it is the right thing to do. They do it to further their own agenda or the agendas of their cronies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    I don't like Emmanuel's politics.

    That being said, I think he is right on this one. Folks go to DC all the time to serve without giving up their residency. Residency is a matter or intent. Assignments by the federal government, in and of themselves, do not change residency.

    Did Emmanuel change his driver's license to DC? Did he file taxes in DC and not IL? Did his personal vehicle have DC or IL tags? Did he maintain IL voting registration? etc.

    If Emmanuel's intent was to return to IL after serving in the White House, typically as demonstrated by maintaining documentary ties to IL, then he maintained his residency, much like my residency did not change every time the AF reassigned me. I did everything to demonstrate my intention to be a TX resident during my first assignment, and then maintained that residency with my DL, absentee voting, etc.

    Now, if Emmanuel did something stupid like not filing taxes in IL while living in DC, then he blew it and demonstrated a lack of intent to be an IL resident.
    "They are looking at the statute and taking it at face value," said Christopher Keleher, a Chicago-based expert on appellate litigation. "They say it requires you live here physically for a year. He didn't, so they say he doesn't qualify. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by p85 View Post
    "They are looking at the statute and taking it at face value," said Christopher Keleher, a Chicago-based expert on appellate litigation. "They say it requires you live here physically for a year. He didn't, so they say he doesn't qualify. "
    It (plain reading) does not require physical residency. After actually reading the decision, it is clear to me that they did not do plain reading on the statute as the same wording in two different parts of the statute are being "plain read" two different way.

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    I only reported what I read.

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    Hey, it's Chicago. What else needs to be said?!? Much as I don't like the man, I disagree with the court's decision; he should be allowed to run. I was born and raised in Illinois, so glad I don't live there anymore.
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    I hope he doesn't get to run. We had to put up with Daley all these years and I think this jerk would be even worse for our state.

    Very anti gun too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    I don't like Emmanuel's politics.

    That being said, I think he is right on this one. Folks go to DC all the time to serve without giving up their residency. Residency is a matter or intent. Assignments by the federal government, in and of themselves, do not change residency.

    Did Emmanuel change his driver's license to DC? Did he file taxes in DC and not IL? Did his personal vehicle have DC or IL tags? Did he maintain IL voting registration? etc.

    If Emmanuel's intent was to return to IL after serving in the White House, typically as demonstrated by maintaining documentary ties to IL, then he maintained his residency, much like my residency did not change every time the AF reassigned me. I did everything to demonstrate my intention to be a TX resident during my first assignment, and then maintained that residency with my DL, absentee voting, etc.

    Now, if Emmanuel did something stupid like not filing taxes in IL while living in DC, then he blew it and demonstrated a lack of intent to be an IL resident.
    I keep seeing people referring to Emmanuel serving in DC. Am I wrong or did he not simply take a job in DC. I was not aware that the job of White House Chief of Staff was considered public service. Was Rahm elected to this position? Is excepting a job from an Administration now considered the same as military service? I cannot see any difference from anyone else who takes a job with the government. Quite frankly, I find it wrong that he wasn't required to establish residence in Maryland. Many states will not allow you live extended periods without at least establishing dual residencies. He took a job which he knew might require him to live outside of Chicago for 4 years or more and then tries to claim he "resided" in Chicago all along? WOW

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    Kind of reminds me of Obama's born on, oops born in issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x1wildone View Post
    Kind of reminds me of Obama's born on, oops born in issue.
    I bet they've talked to no end on fudging the sytem.

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    Last I saw, the Illinois Supreme Court has issued a stay placing him back on the ballot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFCRetired View Post
    Last I saw, the Illinois Supreme Court has issued a stay placing him back on the ballot.
    I see this hit the news today, the stay is just allowing ballots to be printed while they decide the case. It's in no way saying he's back and legal in the running for Mayor Thug. The NO ruling in the appeals still stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavageOne View Post
    Quite frankly, I find it wrong that he wasn't required to establish residence in Maryland. Many states will not allow you live extended periods without at least establishing dual residencies. He took a job which he knew might require him to live outside of Chicago for 4 years or more and then tries to claim he "resided" in Chicago all along? WOW

    You are in fact, correct. MD DOES require that one register their automobile and get a MD driver's license if an individual is residing (owns, leases or rents residential property) in MD for more than 6 months. If you haven't changed everything over after 6 months, you can be charged with driving an unregistered vehicle and driving on an improper license. COMAR 11.11.06.02

    For income tax reasons, MD considers a person a "resident of MD" if they have lived in MD for more than 12 months, REGARDLESS of the fact that they may own property in another state, or have not established residency in MD by properly and lawfully changing their DL and vehicle registration over to MD. (Tax General Article of the MD Code 10-101)

    Rahm was, if he in fact DIDN'T register his vehicle, change his DL to MD, and failed to pay MD income tax, breaking the law.

    But in MD, the law is different for people like Rahm. There are, apparently, a set of super-secret laws and statutes in MD for powerful, wealthy, and well-connected individuals that are not on the books, or available in any library or website. These laws are apparently written in invisible ink, and can only be made visible by the application of copious amounts of campaign contributions to the Governor, though they sometimes become visible in the presence of tremendous political power, and sometimes they also are visible magically to people who have over-inflated senses of aristocratic entitlement...

    The "color of law" in Maryland is Green and Gold...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    You are in fact, correct. MD DOES require that one register their automobile and get a MD driver's license if an individual is residing (owns, leases or rents residential property) in MD for more than 6 months. If you haven't changed everything over after 6 months, you can be charged with driving an unregistered vehicle and driving on an improper license. COMAR 11.11.06.02

    For income tax reasons, MD considers a person a "resident of MD" if they have lived in MD for more than 12 months, REGARDLESS of the fact that they may own property in another state, or have not established residency in MD by properly and lawfully changing their DL and vehicle registration over to MD. (Tax General Article of the MD Code 10-101)

    Rahm was, if he in fact DIDN'T register his vehicle, change his DL to MD, and failed to pay MD income tax, breaking the law.

    But in MD, the law is different for people like Rahm. There are, apparently, a set of super-secret laws and statutes in MD for powerful, wealthy, and well-connected individuals that are not on the books, or available in any library or website. These laws are apparently written in invisible ink, and can only be made visible by the application of copious amounts of campaign contributions to the Governor, though they sometimes become visible in the presence of tremendous political power, and sometimes they also are visible magically to people who have over-inflated senses of aristocratic entitlement...

    The "color of law" in Maryland is Green and Gold...
    Are we assuming he lived in MD? The news report I saw said he lived in DC and filed IL and DC taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul@paul-fisher.com View Post
    Are we assuming he lived in MD? The news report I saw said he lived in DC and filed IL and DC taxes.
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    High Court Emmanuel can un for Mayor

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41291795...-more_politics

    Well, now we have to debate if the guy can win. I hope not!

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