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    Open Carry City Hall Tour 01/30/11 Maryland Heights, MO

    To Whom it may concern,

    I will be eating lunch at Taco Bell at 11952 Dorsett Rd on Sunday 1/30/11 at 12:30PM. Then going one block down the street to take a picture of myself and any Open Carry-er who wishes to join me in front of the Maryland Heights Government center/police station. I do this for open carry awareness. Maryland Heights has no laws regarding open carry that make this illegal, but I can not guaranty my actions will be appreciated by local authorities, as well I do not claim responsibility for any unjust persecution you may receive for doing as I do.

    If by chance the restaurant that I am going to eat lunch at choses to not want me there and I have to eat elsewhere I suggest that if you are joining me you should contact me for my cell number in advance.

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    See you there!

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    i think i will show up. it doesnt seem i need my CCW in this city to oc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylemoul View Post
    i think i will show up. it doesn't seem i need my CCW in this city to OC.
    I have read the codes for Maryland Heights and can find no codes that restrict open carry. Here is the link to their codes. http://library.municode.com/index.as...eName=Missouri
    here is the codes that involve firearms. http://library.municode.com/index.as...eName=Missouri

    I suggest you take no ones words on what is legal. Instead I think you should make sure to read and understand the laws that may restrict Open Carry. I and others here will gladly guide you to find the resources you need. But making well educated decisions involving the carrying of a firearm will fall completely on your shoulders.

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    I tell you, if I was NOT married with kids this kind of stuff would take over all me stress! LOL...Does anyone know weather our elected officials are taking this up for vote? I mean I will love the day with the entire state has ONE law and only ONE law. This is really confusing for the average person to fully understand. Unless I have something wrong with my reading? LOL... Anyway thanks again to everyone who understands and is working on making this happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jad316 View Post
    I tell you, if I was NOT married with kids this kind of stuff would take over all me stress! LOL...Does anyone know weather our elected officials are taking this up for vote? I mean I will love the day with the entire state has ONE law and only ONE law. This is really confusing for the average person to fully understand. Unless I have something wrong with my reading? LOL... Anyway thanks again to everyone who understands and is working on making this happen.

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    A bill regarding state wide legal OC normally gets put together every year. Then it usually gets brushed under the rug without even being voted on. Talk to your state rep. Make sure he/she knows how you feel about this topic.

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    mary heights didnt seem to have anything at all covered.
    i only seen something about discharging of firearms for hunting.

    yay

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylemoul View Post
    mary heights didn't seem to have anything at all covered.
    i only seen something about discharging of firearms for hunting.

    yay
    Yep that is the same conclusion I came to. Once you get used to reading the codes you can find the parts you need to read pretty easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohighlyunlikely View Post
    A bill regarding state wide legal OC normally gets put together every year. Then it usually gets brushed under the rug without even being voted on. Talk to your state rep. Make sure he/she knows how you feel about this topic.

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    I ran a search on firearms bills on the Senate and House yesterday but did not see any state wide legal OC preemption anywhere but I may have overlooked something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9026543 View Post
    I ran a search on firearms bills on the Senate and House yesterday but did not see any state wide legal OC preemption anywhere but I may have overlooked something.
    We are very early in this house's session. But that is another fools game they play. They will introduce the bill very late in the session. Knowing it doesn't have time to get ratified. That way they can say, they tried. In an attempt to pander to there constituents, but not have to fight the good fight and draw lines in the sand with other reps that they have other dirty dealings with. I truly hate how the 2 party system is strong arming American politics.

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    Good seeing those that made it today, hopefully a little bigger turn out next time. We should hit a Steak'n Shake in St. Peters/St. Charles sometime soon. If somebody wants to pick out a date in the next few weeks, let me know.

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    It was nice meeting everyone today. I'm glad I could make it out. I hope to attend a bunch of these meet-ups.

    Kellogg, I'm down for a St. Charles meet-up. I'm hoping that my CCW doesn't take too much longer to come through.

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    st charles city should be legal to oc and dont need a permit.

    i work in st charles city...i can def make that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylemoul View Post
    st Charles city should be legal to OC and don't need a permit.

    i work in st Charles city...i can def make that one.
    I posted St Charles only OC firearm law here on this thread for your consideration of having meet up there. Here is the link.
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...47#post1457947

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    to me it sounds like you cannot have an assembly of people in public.

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    Where's grandma's gun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by patriotthad View Post
    Where's grandma's gun?
    She carries a full frame revolver in a pocket holster that leaves the entire grip protruding outside the pocket. With her dark clothes and the way she was standing. You can't see it very well in that pic.

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    i oc'ed today at cecils by lindenwood.
    ordered pizza, sat and walked out. not a word.

    i was worried about someone calling a MWAG and leo's showing up. i figure theres no "assembly" so no need to worry

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    Hey guys, I'm new to the fourm just because this thread. I am a Maryland heights resident. I have been looking at there laws and this thread has been the most helpful. My 18th birthday is in 3 days. I have had several very uncomfterble and situations that have left me feeling very vunerable lately. Befor everyone tells me to make a wise decision and think this through, I have very much lately. I know missouri law state is your 18 you can open carry. From what I read Maryland heights has no restrictions opon that law. My grandfather was a CCW instuctor so I have a fair share of information and experience with firearms. I shoot every weekend also. My question is, is all my information correct that I can open carry legaly? Thanks for all the information, this is the most helpful article I found.
    Edit- I will only be carrying in Maryland heights unless laws permit in surrounding municipalitys. Anyone have info on bridgton?
    Last edited by MK1MR2; 03-01-2011 at 12:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK1MR2 View Post
    Hey guys, I'm new to the fourm just because this thread. I am a Maryland heights resident. I have been looking at there laws and this thread has been the most helpful. My 18th birthday is in 3 days. I have had several very uncomfterble and situations that have left me feeling very vunerable lately. Befor everyone tells me to make a wise decision and think this through, I have very much lately. I know missouri law state is your 18 you can open carry. From what I read Maryland heights has no restrictions opon that law. My grandfather was a CCW instuctor so I have a fair share of information and experience with firearms. I shoot every weekend also. My question is, is all my information correct that I can open carry legaly? Thanks for all the information, this is the most helpful article I found.
    Edit- I will only be carrying in Maryland heights unless laws permit in surrounding municipalitys. Anyone have info on bridgton?
    Actually, there is nothing in Missouri State Statutes that says it is "legal to open carry". Simply speaking, our statutes are not written in a "permissive" manner. To the contrary, our laws are written in a manner that spells out actions that are prohibited or are considered to be unlawful. Since the section of our statutes that defines "unlawful use of weapons" (RSMO 571.030.1.(1) through (10) ) does NOT specify "openly carrying a firearm" as being "unlawful", it is, by default, lawful.

    In addition, it is federal law that mandates that a person must be at least 18 to possess a handgun, not state law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK1MR2 View Post
    Hey guys, I'm new to the fourm just because this thread. I am a Maryland heights resident. I have been looking at there laws and this thread has been the most helpful. My 18th birthday is in 3 days. I have had several very uncomfterble and situations that have left me feeling very vunerable lately. Befor everyone tells me to make a wise decision and think this through, I have very much lately. I know missouri law state is your 18 you can open carry. From what I read Maryland heights has no restrictions opon that law. My grandfather was a CCW instuctor so I have a fair share of information and experience with firearms. I shoot every weekend also. My question is, is all my information correct that I can open carry legaly? Thanks for all the information, this is the most helpful article I found.
    Edit- I will only be carrying in Maryland heights unless laws permit in surrounding municipalitys. Anyone have info on bridgton?
    I would like to suggest you read these threads. There are places like parks and schools that have special restrictions to Open Carry as well. As a younger person with a firearm you are very likely to get attention from the local LEO's and I would strongly suggest you make a copy of the weapons ordinances of any municipality to which you are legal to open carry in. Remember you are responsible for yourself when in public with a firearm. Just saying a guy from the Internet said it was legal isn't enough. Learn the law and be able to show you know the law for yourself. Good luck

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh....-Louis-County

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...al-in-Missouri

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK1MR2 View Post
    Hey guys, I'm new to the fourm just because this thread. I am a Maryland heights resident. I have been looking at there laws and this thread has been the most helpful. My 18th birthday is in 3 days. I have had several very uncomfterble and situations that have left me feeling very vunerable lately. Befor everyone tells me to make a wise decision and think this through, I have very much lately. I know missouri law state is your 18 you can open carry. From what I read Maryland heights has no restrictions opon that law. My grandfather was a CCW instuctor so I have a fair share of information and experience with firearms. I shoot every weekend also. My question is, is all my information correct that I can open carry legaly? Thanks for all the information, this is the most helpful article I found.
    Edit- I will only be carrying in Maryland heights unless laws permit in surrounding municipalitys. Anyone have info on bridgton?
    Apparently Missouri has no age limitations on OC, I was surprised.

    There are however a tangled web of local restrictions on OC.

    http://www.opencarry.org/mo.html
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    Thats a scary looking group of guys standing there,thankfully you had lady there to tone it down some...LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richieg150 View Post
    Thats a scary looking group of guys standing there,thankfully you had lady there to tone it down some...LOL
    One of them is even "brandishing" a drink.
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