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Open Carry City Hall Tour 01/30/11 Maryland Heights, MO

cshoff

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MK1MR2 said:
Hey guys, I'm new to the fourm just because this thread. I am a Maryland heights resident. I have been looking at there laws and this thread has been the most helpful. My 18th birthday is in 3 days. I have had several very uncomfterble and situations that have left me feeling very vunerable lately. Befor everyone tells me to make a wise decision and think this through, I have very much lately. I know missouri law state is your 18 you can open carry. From what I read Maryland heights has no restrictions opon that law. My grandfather was a CCW instuctor so I have a fair share of information and experience with firearms. I shoot every weekend also. My question is, is all my information correct that I can open carry legaly? Thanks for all the information, this is the most helpful article I found.
Edit- I will only be carrying in Maryland heights unless laws permit in surrounding municipalitys. Anyone have info on bridgton?
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Actually, there is nothing in Missouri State Statutes that says it is "legal to open carry". Simply speaking, our statutes are not written in a "permissive" manner. To the contrary, our laws are written in a manner that spells out actions that are prohibited or are considered to be unlawful. Since the section of our statutes that defines "unlawful use of weapons" (RSMO 571.030.1.(1) through (10) ) does NOT specify "openly carrying a firearm" as being "unlawful", it is, by default, lawful.

In addition, it is federal law that mandates that a person must be at least 18 to possess a handgun, not state law.
 
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MK1MR2 said:
Hey guys, I'm new to the fourm just because this thread. I am a Maryland heights resident. I have been looking at there laws and this thread has been the most helpful. My 18th birthday is in 3 days. I have had several very uncomfterble and situations that have left me feeling very vunerable lately. Befor everyone tells me to make a wise decision and think this through, I have very much lately. I know missouri law state is your 18 you can open carry. From what I read Maryland heights has no restrictions opon that law. My grandfather was a CCW instuctor so I have a fair share of information and experience with firearms. I shoot every weekend also. My question is, is all my information correct that I can open carry legaly? Thanks for all the information, this is the most helpful article I found.
Edit- I will only be carrying in Maryland heights unless laws permit in surrounding municipalitys. Anyone have info on bridgton?
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I would like to suggest you read these threads. There are places like parks and schools that have special restrictions to Open Carry as well. As a younger person with a firearm you are very likely to get attention from the local LEO's and I would strongly suggest you make a copy of the weapons ordinances of any municipality to which you are legal to open carry in. Remember you are responsible for yourself when in public with a firearm. Just saying a guy from the Internet said it was legal isn't enough. Learn the law and be able to show you know the law for yourself. Good luck

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?71591-Open-Carry-List-for-St.-Louis-County

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?85219-Answer-to-how-is-Open-Carry-legal-in-Missouri

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MK1MR2 said:
Hey guys, I'm new to the fourm just because this thread. I am a Maryland heights resident. I have been looking at there laws and this thread has been the most helpful. My 18th birthday is in 3 days. I have had several very uncomfterble and situations that have left me feeling very vunerable lately. Befor everyone tells me to make a wise decision and think this through, I have very much lately. I know missouri law state is your 18 you can open carry. From what I read Maryland heights has no restrictions opon that law. My grandfather was a CCW instuctor so I have a fair share of information and experience with firearms. I shoot every weekend also. My question is, is all my information correct that I can open carry legaly? Thanks for all the information, this is the most helpful article I found.
Edit- I will only be carrying in Maryland heights unless laws permit in surrounding municipalitys. Anyone have info on bridgton?
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Apparently Missouri has no age limitations on OC, I was surprised.

There are however a tangled web of local restrictions on OC.

http://www.opencarry.org/mo.html
 
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I read all of those articles and will continue to read them until memerized and i will definatly print out copies to carry with me. I will also talk to the police officers at school to clarify any unanswered question just to be safe. Obviously I can not carry at school. I have another question, im not 21 so i cannot legaly buy a hand gun, is it true you can only carry what you own? If thats true it would be a deal breaker. The real reason I was to open carry is because I cant conceal obviously and the other night I was in a situation (a guy stalking my sister and I) were I felt I could not protect myself or my sister and I never want to be that vunerable again. Yes I could call the police in a situation but I think this forum would agree im my first line of defense, and I dont want to wait 5 min for help.
 
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MK1MR2 said:
I read all of those articles and will continue to read them until memerized and i will definatly print out copies to carry with me. I will also talk to the police officers at school to clarify any unanswered question just to be safe. Obviously I can not carry at school. I have another question, im not 21 so i cannot legaly buy a hand gun, is it true you can only carry what you own? If thats true it would be a deal breaker. The real reason I was to open carry is because I cant conceal obviously and the other night I was in a situation (a guy stalking my sister and I) were I felt I could not protect myself or my sister and I never want to be that vunerable again. Yes I could call the police in a situation but I think this forum would agree im my first line of defense, and I dont want to wait 5 min for help.
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Spell check is your friend.

There is no registration/proof of ownership in Missouri. Other than that, you are just rewording your original question and misdirecting the thread.

Good luck with memorizing all the information/ statutes et al - even attorney's have to look up cites. Better to learn how to do your research rather than take someone else's opinion. I for one would never ask a LEO for legal advice.
 
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My bad. I'm just trying to get a clear cut answer, I figured this would be the best place for it. Thanks for the help guys. I'll memerize what I need most and carry the rest of the articles with me.
 
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MK1MR2 said:
My bad. I'm just trying to get a clear cut answer, I figured this would be the best place for it. Thanks for the help guys. I'll memerize what I need most and carry the rest of the articles with me.
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Not trying to run you off - I come across a little gruff sometimes. but jumping in the middle of a thread isn't the best way to proceed. Starting a new thread might be more applicable, but it is not very effective to try to teach someone on-line. The time lapse between posts and lack of continuity are problematic.

Try to meet up with an experienced OCer and spend some time talking. Carrying a bunch of documentation with you won't win any street trials and is really not the place to conduct that anyway. Just saying.
 
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MK1MR2 said:
My bad. I'm just trying to get a clear cut answer, I figured this would be the best place for it. Thanks for the help guys. I'll memerize what I need most and carry the rest of the articles with me.
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And no, you don't have to be 21 to purchase a handgun. Specifically, if you are 18 or older, you are well within your rights to purchase a handgun from a private individual (as long as that person is also a Missouri resident). No background check is required, no registration is required, and no bill of sale is required; agree on a price, make your payment, and you are perfectly legal.

Now, in order to purchase a handgun from a FFL (Federal Firearms License) holder, you must be at least 21 years old. For those purchases, you will have to fill out a form 4473 and will be subject to a NICS background check.

The relevant statutes can be found in Title 18, Section 922 United States Code (LINK), and in our State Statutes in RSMO 571.060 (LINK).
 
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