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    Anyone have dealings with this organization???

    I was reading the paper today and came across and advertisement in the classified section of the Milwaukee Journal for a concealed carry permit. Here is the website that was listed in the ad www.milwaukeecops.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrewTownBagger View Post
    I was reading the paper today and came across and advertisement in the classified section of the Milwaukee Journal for a concealed carry permit. Here is the website that was listed in the ad www.milwaukeecops.com
    Just another Weapons training school.
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    While I don't know Kevin Eyre, so I can't say anything. I do see they offer Ayoob Group classes (aka LFI) and from the point of contact listed, David Maglio, I can comment. I have taken many classes with him and whomever he was with then. He is a very knowledgeable guy that will work one on one with anyone needing extra help.

    He also was shooting IDPA when that first came to Wisconsin (2000?) and active in the early state matches in Ripon the first couple years for sure.

    While I have no idea what he's up to now, I would not hesitate to take a class HE was teaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrewTownBagger View Post
    I was reading the paper today and came across and advertisement in the classified section of the Milwaukee Journal for a concealed carry permit. Here is the website that was listed in the ad www.milwaukeecops.com
    Anyone know of any other Utah CCW instructors in SE Wisconsin that teach the course inexpensively? Don't care how well they teach, just as long as they are certified.
    I already have a Florida CCW license, but Utah's is cheaper.

    Feel free to PM me if you like.

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    Michael Bender of PPA

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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    Michael Bender of PPA

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    +1 he does a great job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mliederbach View Post
    +1 he does a great job.
    I thought he was okay. Not fantastic, but decent. I haven't taken any of his other classes, but maybe he is better with those than the "intro" one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    I thought he was okay. Not fantastic, but decent. I haven't taken any of his other classes, but maybe he is better with those than the "intro" one?
    I have taken all five handgun courses and one carbine course. I learned a lot, but I have nothing to compare him to.

    As stated earlier on this forum, he does not care at all for Open Carry and he is Concealed Carry with Permit kind of instructor. Last September he was selling prepaid Concealed Carry Permit classes for Wisconsin in anticipation of the new state government.

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...teering-begins


    And post 156 of
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...76#post1426676

    deals with lobbying the Concealed Carry with Permit position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Touchdown View Post
    Anyone know of any other Utah CCW instructors in SE Wisconsin that teach the course inexpensively? Don't care how well they teach, just as long as they are certified.
    I already have a Florida CCW license, but Utah's is cheaper.

    Feel free to PM me if you like.

    Thanks. Molon Labe!
    How can Utah's be cheaper? The permit itself is cheaper, but not if you add the cost of the required class to the permit cost.

    But Utah class is also taught regularly at Deerfield Pistol.
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    I took a Utah course with Michael Moore. It was all inclusive and cheapest I could find. He is based in IL but he will travel if he gets enough people. I think he is $100 right now. http://www.anywhereccw.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotgun View Post
    How can Utah's be cheaper? The permit itself is cheaper, but not if you add the cost of the required class to the permit cost.
    Cost is pretty much a wash, but Utah's license is accepted in MI and MN, where FL's is not. FL renewal is $154 (fingerprint fee due to out of state).

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    For comparison, my PPA costs are

    Course 1(08-16-2009 ) Tuition - $140.00, Range Fee - $25.00, Transportation - $30.00; Ammo (1 box) - $18.00

    Total $213.00

    Utah Permit Permit - $65.25; Fingerprints - $10.00; ID Photo - $10.00
    Total $85.25

    Grand Total was $298.25

    The Tuition was discounted $60 because of family/friend multiple enrollment.

    So, I can pretty much predict from this and other dealings with some instructors that if a permitted carry is enacted in Wisconsin, it's gonna cost $350 or so

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    Quote Originally Posted by phred View Post
    So, I can pretty much predict from this and other dealings with some instructors that if a permitted carry is enacted in Wisconsin, it's gonna cost $350 or so
    Hope they have reciprocity with Georgia cause I don't want to have to pay that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Hope they have reciprocity with Georgia cause I don't want to have to pay that!
    That would be for a Wisconsin resident permit

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    Quote Originally Posted by phred View Post
    For comparison, my PPA costs are

    Course 1(08-16-2009 ) Tuition - $140.00, Range Fee - $25.00, Transportation - $30.00; Ammo (1 box) - $18.00

    Total $213.00

    Utah Permit Permit - $65.25; Fingerprints - $10.00; ID Photo - $10.00
    Total $85.25

    Grand Total was $298.25

    The Tuition was discounted $60 because of family/friend multiple enrollment.

    So, I can pretty much predict from this and other dealings with some instructors that if a permitted carry is enacted in Wisconsin, it's gonna cost $350 or so
    And you got by with a relatively low price. The total cost of getting a permit must be made part of the discussion with the legislature. The other thing will be a lack of places to train. Although a sizable potion of Pittman-Robinson money provided the DNR comes from handgun and ammo sales, the DNR has not been using funds received for range development.

    Law enforcement ranges should be required to be open to the public. They were paid for with taxpayer money. Limiting range availability is a way to keep the the number of gun owners down. I am unaware of Doyle's DNR spending a penny on ranges. The DNR ranges are privately or volunteer operated and maintained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touchdown
    ...Utah's license is accepted in MI and MN, where FL's is not.
    The way I understand it, MI will allow you to carry openly if you have a concealed carry permit from any state. You can carry concealed in MI if you have a permit from your home state, & you cannot carry openly in MI unless you have a permit.
    So they're even more rights-restrictive than WI.
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    Hi Friends,

    One forum member asked about prices for the Utah Concealed Carry Permit Class. Here is my response:

    I noted that one link to a Utah Permit Instructor listed FL, CO, NH, and MI as accepting the Utah permit. That is true ONLY if the permit holder is a Utah resident. Another instructor is "recommended by a WI resident", but upon visiting his website, no fees are mentioned.

    One link to a Utah Permit Instructor posted that he is certified to teach the course required for a Florida Permit. In truth, the Florida permit "class" is self taught by receiving a kit from FL. The required shooting course can be satisfied by a Military DD-214 showing pistol qualification, by most State's Hunter Safety Courses, or more preferably, by taking and passing the NRA Pistol Course (which I too am qualified to teach).

    Please be aware that the Utah permit (tax) fee is 1/2 of the Florida fee.

    As a former WI resident and current UT resident (and BCI Certified Concealed Firearm Permit instructor), who still owns property in WI, I can understand the financial motives of WI residents who invest money to become an NRA Certified Instructor - Pistol Discipline credentials, and then travel to Salt Lake City every three years to get and renew their Utah BCI Certification. I tip my hat to those folks.

    And, I see that the going price for a Utah Concealed Carry Permit Class is $100 + range expenses (and often + travel fees). Or, $80 from an Illinois instructor for those willing to travel into Illinois to receive the training. I commend my former WI resident friends on their business endeavors, but I do have other plans.

    Thus, as a former WI resident with family and friends in WI, I now present an alternative plan. (Keep in mind that as much as I support Constitutional Carry, a "permission slip" is still necessary to go from State to State.) And, depending on how a WI Concealed Carry law might get written, an out-of-state permit may just immediately qualify a WI resident for a (hopefully optional) WI permit.

    I will be returning to WI in late Spring and/or early summer to visit my family and friends and will offer the UT Concealed Firearm Permit course "for cost". I will drive (so that I do not have to go unarmed in an airplane and so that I can take the Utah Course materials with me) and estimate that it will cost $600 or so for the round-trip journey. Now, if I have only one student, that is not a very good deal. If I have six students, that would match current WI prices. If I have 10 students, that is $60 per student. If I have 20 students, that is $30 per student. Thirty students would be $20 each... you can do the math. With the right classroom, I could do 60 students for $10 each. (I have access to an airport hanger in East Troy, but do not have 30 - 60 chairs.)

    I will be staying near Burlington and visiting Janesville and Elkhorn. I do not have a classroom facility or range in WI, and would have to count on others in WI to try to find me one. (Be advised, a live shoot is NOT required to receive the Utah Concealed Firearm Permit, but I am available as an NRA Pistol Instructor to tutor those who are not familiar with firearms. - Or teach the NRA Pistol course for those who also want a FL permit.)

    For this to work, I will need somebody in WI to serve as a liason to help set everything up - and I will need some RSVPs from folks to make it worth while. Otherwise, I will visit my family, teach the course to a few friends who have expressed an interest, and then just drive back to SLC.

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    well if you are willing to travel 3 hours north (redgranite 30 miles west of Oshkosh) I have a 30x50 garage and a 200 yard range on my property that could be used for this endeavour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryD View Post
    well if you are willing to travel 3 hours north (redgranite 30 miles west of Oshkosh) I have a 30x50 garage and a 200 yard range on my property that could be used for this endeavour.
    Do you know Bill Schmitts ? He does CCW training on his property in Red Granite.
    http://youtu.be/xWgVGu3OR4U AACFI, Wisconsin / Minnesota Carry Certified. Action Pistol & Advanced Action pistol concepts + Urban Carbine course. When the entitlement Zombies begin looting, pillaging, raping, burning & killing..remember HEAD SHOTS it's the only way to kill a Zombie. Stockpile food & water now.

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    I do not know him but do know of him.
    I had to change my signature because you know who got upset about it.

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