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    Reason Number 11ty to OC in Richmond...


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    A savage beating/robbery by multiple attackers equates to a justifiable use of any force necessary to stop the attack, in my book. OC...CC...Any C will do.

    This kind of crap has to stop.
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    The best thing that could have happened to those subhuman creatures would have been 1200 fps JHP 165gr rounds delivered to center mass with extreme prejudice. They have very little reason to continue to breathe air.
    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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    But which platform?

    165s are usually 10 or .40 cal but I just found some for .45ACP with very similar velocity. Ah decisions, decisions.

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    There is a much bigger problem here than firearms. Racists come in all colors shapes and sizes. The white male used the N word. You just can't fix stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny View Post
    There is a much bigger problem here than firearms. Racists come in all colors shapes and sizes. The white boy used the N word. You just can't fix stupid.
    Yeah, they do come in all colors Kenny. Do you think that everyone wasn't throwing out a few slurs?

    I dislike the White boy, Black boy thing.
    The question is who started it and what did they do about it.

    If the White Boy as you put it, used the N word and they considered it a matter of honor to take it out back (so to speak and I happen to agree with doing that), shouldn't it be settled like men, rather than a pack of animals jumping on one man.


    I can't abide cowards. It makes me sick to see images of KKK or Skinheads beating a lone black man and by the same token, this scene where a gang of black kids doing the same to a white man.
    All over the color of someones skin.

    If this had been one on one and the White Gentleman who made the slur, had gotten his butt kicked, I'd have been all for it.

    There wasn't any honor defended in that video, just a gang of hoodlums doing what hoodlums do.
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    No matter how you look at the video it is obvious we all have a lot work to do.

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    And if only one of them would have been using a C of any sort... but then again, I usually don't walk around in dark streets at night, its only asking for trouble, but when I do, you know who/what has my back...

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    and now, The Rest of the Story, as told to WTVR.

    http://www.wtvr.com/news/wtvr-victim...,6431852.story

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    Possibly a Commonwealth Hate Crime

    "This is what happens when white guys use the n-word"

    Hmm. It would seem that the attackers would have purposely selected a white victim in order for that You Tube title to have any meaning. If that is proven to be true ...

    Code of Virginia
    18.2-57. Assault and battery. (Underlines added)
    A. Any person who commits a simple assault or assault and battery shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor, and if the person intentionally selects the person against whom a simple assault is committed because of his race, religious conviction, color or national origin, the penalty upon conviction shall include a term of confinement of at least six months, 30 days of which shall be a mandatory minimum term of confinement.
    B. However, if a person intentionally selects the person against whom an assault and battery resulting in bodily injury is committed because of his race, religious conviction, color or national origin, the person shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony, and the penalty upon conviction shall include a term of confinement of at least six months, 30 days of which shall be a mandatory minimum term of confinement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Yeah, they do come in all colors Kenny. Do you think that everyone wasn't throwing out a few slurs?

    I dislike the White boy, Black boy thing.
    The question is who started it and what did they do about it.

    If the White Boy as you put it, used the N word and they considered it a matter of honor to take it out back (so to speak and I happen to agree with doing that), shouldn't it be settled like men, rather than a pack of animals jumping on one man.


    I can't abide cowards. It makes me sick to see images of KKK or Skinheads beating a lone black man and by the same token, this scene where a gang of black kids doing the same to a white man.
    All over the color of someones skin.

    If this had been one on one and the White Gentleman who made the slur, had gotten his butt kicked, I'd have been all for it.

    There wasn't any honor defended in that video, just a gang of hoodlums doing what hoodlums do.

    Well put Pete....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyite View Post
    keep on sticking up for the scum homey.
    I am not sticking up for any one. I will ad that if you are not part of the solution, then are just part of the over all problem.

    When you have lived in a place for more than 20 years and have first hand seen the problems that may exist or perceived to exist then your opinion may be worthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny View Post
    I am not sticking up for any one. I will ad that if you are not part of the solution, then are just part of the over all problem.

    When you have lived in a place for more than 20 years and have first hand seen the problems that may exist or perceived to exist then your opinion may be worthy.
    That'll come back to haunt you Kenny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny View Post
    SNIP... I will ad that if you are not part of the solution, then are just part of the over all problem.
    But aren't comments like this "part of the over all problem" too?
    "The white boy used the N word. You just can't fix stupid."
    (see Post #5 of this thread)

    Especially since it was determined that's not an accurate statement, and those 'white boys' never used that word at all.

    Perhaps you'll provide an apology/retraction for that misguided comment.... that might be a small step towards being "part of the solution".....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claytron View Post
    I dont care if there were 50 people all saying that someone said or did something, none of us were there so why try and act like you have any idea what actually happened? Besides what is clearly seen or heard on audio/video, we dont know jack.
    Kenny knows!
    He's finely attuned to the very aura of the city of Richmond.
    If a sewer rat breaks wind on Jeff Davis Highway, Kenny senses it before the odor drifts into Chesterfield.

    He is...Super Kenny



    One time he told us about an OC'er who was firing a machine gun in the Inner City. He neither heard it or saw it...he sensed it and the fact that he knew it was OC'ed, was awe inspiring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny View Post
    The white boy used the N word. .
    Words alone do not justify an assault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Kenny knows!
    He's finely attuned to the very aura of the city of Richmond.
    If a sewer rat breaks wind on Jeff Davis Highway, Kenny senses it before the odor drifts into Chesterfield.

    He is...Super Kenny



    One time he told us about an OC'er who was firing a machine gun in the Inner City. He neither heard it or saw it...he sensed it and the fact that he knew it was OC'ed, was awe inspiring.
    What I said then as I recall was there was some type of automatic gunfire in the Boulevard and Broad area. Police reports and news reports including witness statements back that up 100%. The people who live hear and care have means of sharing information that is a little more trust worthy than places like this forum.

    Peter it appears you hate the city for some reason. I spent several days visiting restaurants and obtaining seating information and asking about these breakfasts and dinners you so frequently attend. I shared that information on this forum. I haven't seen the first announcing any OC meal visit in the city. You actions speak volumes.

    I have a vested interest in the city. I live here and own property. Am I happy with some of the people who run the city? No I am not, but who is? If everyone does a little we just might see a change. I have over the years.

    I loved your JD comments. I'll let you and yours chase after the rats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    Words alone do not justify an assault.
    Agree completely.

    Sorry if the term "boy" offended anyone. He didn't look like girl to me.

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    This incident raises an interesting question...what if one of us carrying a gun came upon such a scene with multiple people savagely beating someone?

    What to do?

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    Call the police. Inform of the situation and your intent.

    Maintain a safe distance. Draw. Attempt to execute a citizens arrest. Wait for the police.

    React accordingly.
    The quiet war has begun, with silent weapons
    And the newest slavery is to keep the people poor, and stupid
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny View Post
    What I said then as I recall was there was some type of automatic gunfire in the Boulevard and Broad area. Police reports and news reports including witness statements back that up 100%. The people who live hear and care have means of sharing information that is a little more trust worthy than places like this forum.

    Peter it appears you hate the city for some reason. I spent several days visiting restaurants and obtaining seating information and asking about these breakfasts and dinners you so frequently attend. I shared that information on this forum. I haven't seen the first announcing any OC meal visit in the city. You actions speak volumes.

    I have a vested interest in the city. I live here and own property. Am I happy with some of the people who run the city? No I am not, but who is? If everyone does a little we just might see a change. I have over the years.
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    Kenny, all joking aside...you're absolutely right. I do hate cities, not just Richmond, all cities and I include the surrounding burbs in that dislike.

    I hate the constant noise and trash. I hate having to constantly watch what others are doing because you can't tell the good from the bad. I hate pavement and pollution and a cop on every corner, drugs, cities within cities of immigrants, City Councils and boards of supervisors that closely resemble the three stooges, high taxes, slums, projects, parking meters, silly regulations, fat women in spandex jogging suits, City Buses that are more dangerous than guided missiles, fancy restaurants with waiters who float and smells that would make a Billy Goat Puke.

    Aside from those and a few other reasons....I suppose they are OK

    I used to own some apartments in the city..mostly on Duvall Street. I had to take a shotgun when I collected the rent. I used to work in Richmond. Even when I was with the state you had to carry a gun to get to your car. I had three sets of license tags stolen one year.

    Thankfully, I have never lived in a city (If you call that living) and never will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    I hate.............fat women in spandex jogging suits.
    Yep, that's my breaking point right there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockfan View Post
    This incident raises an interesting question...what if one of us carrying a gun came upon such a scene with multiple people savagely beating someone?

    What to do?
    That's a good question. Would the kick in the head justify the use of deadly force?

    Would appropriate to say stop or I'll shoot, and if they don't stop, then shoot em?

    Would it be appropriate to say stop or I'll shoot and then guy continues to kick him in the head then you shoot (try to anyway) the kicker?

    I feel like we are more likely to encounter a deadly situation like this when we are carrying than interrupting a robbery or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    Words alone do not justify an assault.
    +1

    Unless of course the words are "All citizens will turn in their firearms at the nearest Firearm Receiving Center."

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