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Why would a college student need a gun?

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mpd8488 said:
There is never anything wrong with advocating training and situational awareness. Please just consider that the antis frequently use the excuse that college students are young and frequently binge drink as arguments for why there should be blanket weapons bans on campus. Let's just be careful not give their arguments any traction within the gun rights community.
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wylde007 said:
Though they have no trouble arming them and sending them halfway around the world in exercises of nation-building under fire.

Pretty twisted double standard if you ask me.
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18 or less for military, 18 to OC, 21 for a permit - thank you for your service, but not in my neighborhood, you are too immature and irresponsible.

A legal gun owner/carrier must act responsibly and by stepping one foot (literally) onto campus they become irresponsible drunks whose maturity is ratcheted back a couple of notches - right?
 
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So, if as a 38-year old veteran, I decide to go back to college, I have to be lumped in with adults who just left home for the first time and must be treated like children? So I must be disarmed because of someone elses poor behavior and another's unhealthy fear of guns?

This is why this arbitrary rule needs to go away.

This isn't a new revelation for me, just stating the obvious for those who believe that college student = ages 18-21.
 
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SIGguy229 said:
So, if as a 38-year old veteran, I decide to go back to college, I have to be lumped in with adults who just left home for the first time and must be treated like children? So I must be disarmed because of someone elses poor behavior and another's unhealthy fear of guns?

This is why this arbitrary rule needs to go away.

This isn't a new revelation for me, just stating the obvious for those who believe that college student = ages 18-21.
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Yes.

University Administrations are willing to accept armed robberies, and assaults of students on and off campus. I can even recall a professor being assaulted and robbed at ODU maybe a year or two ago. It's disgusting.

ODU now offers a "safe ride" service that will take people with University IDs anywhere within a mile of campus as a lame excuse for a solution. It hasn't stopped the assaults and robberies. I guess it's the fault of those individuals for not taking advantage of the service offered by the University. (FYI, there are 20,000+ students at ODU)

Of course the service does nothing for anyone on campus who will still be at the mercy of someone intent on shooting students.
 
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t33j said:
ODU now offers a "safe ride" service that will take people with University IDs anywhere within a mile of campus as a lame excuse for a solution. It hasn't stopped the assaults and robberies. I guess it's the fault of those individuals for not taking advantage of the service offered by the University. (FYI, there are 20,000+ students at ODU)
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So following the bus would be an excellent way to select an unarmed, off campus victim.
Got to [strike]love[/strike] hate their "solution.
 
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wylde007 said:
I believe 17 if you have a special exemption and parental "permission".

I believe the exemption is "high school diploma" though I am not certain. I was never recruited very aggressively. Go figure.
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...or GED, and a reasonable score on the ASVAB (or whatever test they are giving now-a-days)
 
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t33j said:
Yes.

University Administrations are willing to accept armed robberies, and assaults of students on and off campus. I can even recall a professor being assaulted and robbed at ODU maybe a year or two ago. It's disgusting.

ODU now offers a "safe ride" service that will take people with University IDs anywhere within a mile of campus as a lame excuse for a solution. It hasn't stopped the assaults and robberies. I guess it's the fault of those individuals for not taking advantage of the service offered by the University. (FYI, there are 20,000+ students at ODU)

Of course the service does nothing for anyone on campus who will still be at the mercy of someone intent on shooting students.
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It removes the campus administration from the loop, so that now you are once again responsible for your own self-defense. Not that you can because you were administratively dis-armed to be legal, but hey it isn't the College/University's problem anymore you are now outside their bailiwick.
 
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"Don't fight back! Just give them what they want!"


but...what if it is your life they want? :question:
 
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nuc65 said:
It removes the campus administration from the loop, so that now you are once again responsible for your own self-defense. Not that you can because you were administratively dis-armed to be legal, but hey it isn't the College/University's problem anymore you are now outside their bailiwick.
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Along the same line of reasoning wherein off campus crime is NOT tabulated nor reported in their crime stats. VCU, as an example, has much reduced crime on campus because every time you step onto a city sidewalk you are off campus - city streets and sidewalk literally lace the "campus" - block after block of concrete campus. Even walking to the VCU main police station will take you blocks away off campus. White wash should be so cheap!
 
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