SB 1250 State-wide Preemption to be Heard 2-1-2011

Virginiaplanter · Jan 31, 2011

SB 1250 the State-wide preemption bill is to be heard in the sub-committee #1 at 10:00am tomorrow according to the Legislative Services.

Senator John Edwards, e-mail address is : district21@senate.virginia.gov Phone : (804) 698-7521
Senator Phillip P. Puckett, e-mail address is : district38@senate.virginia.gov Phone: (804) 698-7538
Senator Frederick M. Quayle, e-mail address is: district13@senate.virginia.gov Phone: (804) 698-7513

It would be good to call these people and voice your support that this Bill be reported out with an affirmative vote.

ocholsteroc · Jan 31, 2011

Thank you for sharing.

mpd8488 · Jan 31, 2011

Is anybody familiar with the second amendment records of those senators?

edit: I also just sent an email to all three members of the sub-committee asking for their support

Virginiaplanter · Jan 31, 2011

mpd8488 said:
Is anybody familiar with the second amendment records of those senators?

edit: I also just sent an email to all three members of the sub-committee asking for their support

Edwards and Quayle voted to support some firearms bills last year before the great kill off, but Puckett was not part of this full Senate committee last year. Last year's kill-off in sub-committee was by the Courts of Justice Committee, this bill is in the Rules Committee. He is from Tazewell, Virginia.

TFred · Jan 31, 2011

Talking points

If anyone is planning to go speak to this bill.... it would be a very good point to make that just as before the statewide preemption of local ordinances was placed, we still find ourselves in a situation where there is a mish-mash of illogically disparate rules and regulations that are imposed upon law-abiding citizens by the various state agencies.

All the reasons that led to the very successful current preemption of local ordinances still exist, and even more so, for the various state agencies.

A law abiding citizen should not have to be, or hire a lawyer to know where it is legal or not legal to carry a firearm for self defense, especially when conducting business with state agencies whose purpose it is to serve the needs of our citizens.

With dozens of state agencies able to set their own rules and regulations for this issue, it's nearly impossible for an average citizen to know if they will be in compliance or not, without significant time spent on research.

TFred

peter nap · Jan 31, 2011

TFred said:
If anyone is planning to go speak to this bill.... it would be a very good point to make that just as before the statewide preemption of local ordinances was placed, we still find ourselves in a situation where there is a mish-mash of illogically disparate rules and regulations that are imposed upon law-abiding citizens by the various state agencies.

All the reasons that led to the very successful current preemption of local ordinances still exist, and even more so, for the various state agencies.

A law abiding citizen should not have to be, or hire a lawyer to know where it is legal or not legal to carry a firearm for self defense, especially when conducting business with state agencies whose purpose it is to serve the needs of our citizens.

With dozens of state agencies able to set their own rules and regulations for this issue, it's nearly impossible for an average citizen to know if they will be in compliance or not, without significant time spent on research.

TFred

I plan to be there to video it but I doubt I'll speak. I've only spoken on one bill this year and that wasn't gun related. I'm sure Philip and other VCDL people will be there and my policy is that in most cases, I only act in support of VCDL.

Too many Cooks...Etc.

mpd8488 · Jan 31, 2011

NRA sent out an alert at about 5:30 for this and VCDL just sent there alert out (I got it around 9:20). These alerts were a bit last minute but hopefully we can get a lot of folks contacting these Senators before the sub-committee meeting tomorrow.

Lincoln7 · Jan 31, 2011

Sent an email to my Senator using the VCDL update-email link. I gotta say those email links are extremely convenient/useful. I wish I had been available to send it out earlier.

Mr. Y · Jan 31, 2011

Contacted earlier today. Let's keep the pressure on for this.

ocholsteroc · Jan 31, 2011

Did you get the VCDL update? it has a prewriten message.

Mr. Y · Jan 31, 2011

I didn't wait for the VA Alert, because as PVC has pointed out previously in Alerts "action beats reaction".

We had actionable intel right here on the internet, able to be verified at the source.

ocholsteroc · Jan 31, 2011

I already sent a email thanks to OP. But I also saw the VCDL alert, so I sent out another email via VCDL update.

jmelvin · Feb 1, 2011

Sent individual e-mails earlier this afternoon. Will assist the wifester in sending hers.

Virginiaplanter · Feb 1, 2011

This morning SB 1250 was removed from the subcommittee #1 Docket as stated in the header of the link. It was not heard. Don't know why.

ocholsteroc · Feb 1, 2011

Virginiaplanter said:
This morning SB 1250 was removed from the subcommittee #1 Docket as stated in the header of the link. It was not heard. Don't know why.

Does that mean it will be reheard? or they do not plan to go any further?

Virginiaplanter · Feb 1, 2011

It appears from sources that everybody was caught by surprise. The Chairwoman of the full committee Senator Mary Margaret Whipple ask that it be removed from the docket, not the subcommittee members . That means it will either be heard by the full committee or be killed. Even the patron was not made aware that it was pulled. Everybody sat for two hours waiting for it to be called. It appears it may have done to kill it.

Senator Mary Margaret Whipple, Chairwoman Senate Rules Committee, E-mail: district31@senate.virginia.gov Phone: (804) 698-7531

It might be good to contact her office and ask that the full committee hear the bill.

peter nap · Feb 1, 2011

Virginiaplanter said:
It appears from sources that everybody was caught by surprise. The Chairwoman of the full committee Senator Mary Margaret Whipple ask that it be removed from the docket, not the subcommittee members . That means it will either be heard by the full committee or be killed. Even the patron was not made aware that it was pulled. Everybody sat for two hours waiting for it to be called. It likely appears it was done to kill it.

Remember this come election time.

Senator Mary Margaret Whipple, Chairwoman Senate Rules Committee, E-mail: district31@senate.virginia.gov Phone: (804) 698-7531

It might be good to contact her office and ask that the full committee hear the bill.

Well not everybody waited:lol:

I didn't see it on the docket when I got there an hour early, and talked to the NRA Rep about it. He checked and it looks like it will be heard by the full committee, possibly on Friday. We'll see.

I stayed for a while just so Goddard wouldn't know it was off of the docket. He got bored and even tried talking to me. :uhoh:

I had a couple of other Committee meetings to go to so I left when he started being friendly. I had the Vixia set up and Goddard thought it was small (It is a wee beastie):banghead:

Grapeshot · Feb 1, 2011

peter nap said:
I didn't see it on the docket when I got there an hour early, and talked to the NRA Rep about it. He checked and it looks like it will be heard by the full committee, possibly on Friday. We'll see.

Called Senator Whipple's office. They claim to NOT know why it was pulled, but will have someone call me back. The lady sounded very frustrated - think they are getting some heat over this.

peter nap · Feb 1, 2011

Grapeshot said:
Called Senator Whipple's office. They claim to NOT know why it was pulled, but will have someone call me back. The lady sounded very frustrated - think they are getting some heat over this.

Yeah, they are. I'm on the call back list too and it sounded like half of Va was too.

Apparently Philip knew because he never showed up.

TFred · Feb 1, 2011

Well, it may not become apparent right away, but you simply cannot make a continual habit of completely disregarding the rules and expect to keep getting away with it.

Eventually people are going to find out and get mad.

TFred

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