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Time for a GSL student produced video?
- Thread starter Grapeshot
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I haven't read the rules about outside help TJ...but rules permitting, I'll edit it for you if you shoot it.
In addition to a camera, you'll need audio equipment. Camera audio sucks unless you have access to a pro camera with XLR inputs.
Minimum will be a recorder like the Zoom H4n, boom, Juicedlink or other preamp with phantom power, Supercardiod Mic and a boom operator to go along with it.
Count on 15 to 30 minutes of raw footage to make that 30 seconds.
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TFred
Regular Member
Surely you jest...
30 seconds is an eternity in the hands of a skilled movie maker.
Remember this commercial from a Superbowl a few years back? Tells quite a story, and leaves time at the end for the logos.
[video=youtube;GROuZauDT9Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GROuZauDT9Q[/video]
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t33j
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wylde007
Regular Member
I disagree.
Now if you want to compare one to the other, you have a point. XLR being second and independent (board) source being first, most modern handhelds have pretty fair audio.
I use my video camera to record live rock music and can isolate the audio - and it is listenable. Of course, a lot of that depends on who is running the sound... and there are a lot of schlubs out there who have a lot of gear and not a lot of talent.
On the topic at hand - if any ODU or TCC students in the Tidewater area wanted an extra cameraman or sourced audio for this project, I would be happy to contribute whatever I am able. I do have several bits of pro audio which may be helpful.
MSC 45ACP
Regular Member
Bridget would probably be interested. Let me know if this gets off the ground. She's a 5' tall ODU student and not too hard to look at when she gets cleaned up.
UglyGun
Regular Member
Although I am not a student, this would be my 30 second screenplay that will never officially win: (but does that really matter?)
//Black screen with bold white text:
Your Safety is Your Personal Responsibility
//Slight pause
College Park, GA
Two armed thugs violently bust into an apartment with 10 students and separate the men from the women. They count their bullets and decide they have enough to 'finish the job'. One armed thug stands guard over the men while the other goes with the women and prepares to rape them.
//Black screen with bold white text
Why didn't the news report a mass rape and murder?
Camera pans to a male student. He reaches into his backpack, pulls out his weapon and opens fire on the armed thug. Student then runs to the room with the second gunman, throws open door and takes aim.
//Black screen with bold white text
A True Tale of Personal Responsibility
Most of you here know that I did not invent the above scenario. It is reality:
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/19365762/detail.html
//Black screen with bold white text:
Your Safety is Your Personal Responsibility
//Slight pause
College Park, GA
Two armed thugs violently bust into an apartment with 10 students and separate the men from the women. They count their bullets and decide they have enough to 'finish the job'. One armed thug stands guard over the men while the other goes with the women and prepares to rape them.
//Black screen with bold white text
Why didn't the news report a mass rape and murder?
Camera pans to a male student. He reaches into his backpack, pulls out his weapon and opens fire on the armed thug. Student then runs to the room with the second gunman, throws open door and takes aim.
//Black screen with bold white text
A True Tale of Personal Responsibility
Most of you here know that I did not invent the above scenario. It is reality:
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/19365762/detail.html
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They do have one good suggestion there: "Attempt to incapacitate the active shooter", but then they go on to say that even talking about guns is a bad thing.
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epilogue
Regular Member
"Act with physical aggression and throw items at the active shooter"
I got a chuckle out of that, bullets count as items, yeah? yeah? yeah?
I got a chuckle out of that, bullets count as items, yeah? yeah? yeah?
The problem with most non pro handhelds Wylde, is little or no control over the levels or AGC. On some, especially the Canons that can accept Magic Lantern, there is independent control...but not on most of them.
The Consumer HD camera's have gotten so good now that the audio is most of what separates them from the Prosumers.
wylde007
Regular Member
I wasn't discounting your statements on the whole, as I have only a limited amount of experience in the video production field, I was simply saying that for the purposes I have used them (Panasonic Mini-DV cameras, live concert recording) with very high volume sound sources they have performed fairly admirably, admirably enough that I can discern that bad audio was more a consequence of poor sound engineering than poor camera location or hardware.
That being said, I would still defer to someone who actually does this stuff day-in and day-out... and that person is not me.
That being said, I would still defer to someone who actually does this stuff day-in and day-out... and that person is not me.
Shane, I have to admit that until 2 minutes ago when I started reading this thread, I had never heard of you. I'm now VERY glad I have.
I'm also extremely proud that you'll be in my Air Force. Thank you.
Were there more like you, many of us would be significantly more optimistic about our future.
shanebelanger
Accomplished Advocate
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words sir.
shanebelanger
Accomplished Advocate
You could always show two different scenarios.
Scenario 1: Active shooter walks into classroom and methodically shoots defenseless cowering kids for 5 seconds.
Scenario 2: Active shooter walks into classroom and is met with an armed student.
In-between the scenes it could say something to the effect of: "if only the politicians would allow us to protect ourselves.
Pan back to scenario 2 with statistical reference to effect of one armed person attempting to stop armed assailant, obviously also include when one officer rushes in without backup etc.
In my opinion if you show the same exact two beginning scenarios but with very different outcomes, that will be your attention grabber... with the active shooter immediately walking in and firing people will be very attentive to your message. Perhaps than have a person say: "I am 18 or 21 years old. I carry everyday of my life... why should my life be worth less in this classroom than it is on the street just outside of this classroom?
Flash statistic of firearms used for defensive purposes (between 800,000 and 2 million)
just a thought... hope this helps!
Scenario 1: Active shooter walks into classroom and methodically shoots defenseless cowering kids for 5 seconds.
Scenario 2: Active shooter walks into classroom and is met with an armed student.
In-between the scenes it could say something to the effect of: "if only the politicians would allow us to protect ourselves.
Pan back to scenario 2 with statistical reference to effect of one armed person attempting to stop armed assailant, obviously also include when one officer rushes in without backup etc.
In my opinion if you show the same exact two beginning scenarios but with very different outcomes, that will be your attention grabber... with the active shooter immediately walking in and firing people will be very attentive to your message. Perhaps than have a person say: "I am 18 or 21 years old. I carry everyday of my life... why should my life be worth less in this classroom than it is on the street just outside of this classroom?
Flash statistic of firearms used for defensive purposes (between 800,000 and 2 million)
just a thought... hope this helps!
hunter45
Regular Member
But this is what really happens when the shooter is met with an armed student(s):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNmeeycsgG0&feature=related
Then there is this - would you want to wait?
Especially watch at 4:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FuIbujpLWA&feature=related
TFred
Regular Member
You do realize that this is nothing more than a pathetic propaganda piece don't you? It's easy enough to see through... they are trying to tell a story that essentially says inconsequential scuffles will inevitably lead to mass shootings unless we prohibit guns from schools. Totally unrealistic scenario, and the sponsor is an anti-gun organization, students for gun free schools dot org.
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Zak Kee
Regular Member
OK, so I am looking at the good in this that antis will not see... There is one guy being held at gunpoint, and two armed by-standards stopping the situation. I do not believe the active shooter would continue to fire his weapon, while being held at gunpoint. Even like the video portrays, when the screen goes black there are two shots fired. So even if the active shooter executes his victim, the video implies that the shooter was then taken down. TO ME, this says that the law abiding citizens stopped a Columbine or VA tech... Just saying, this is my opinion, what do y'all think??
Bulldog1967
Regular Member
I will donate my talent and production services to any student(s) who wish to enter this contest.