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    open carry at barnes and nobles citadel colorado springs

    i felt a little weird looking for battle hymm of the tiger mom wearing my gun but it went super well didnt even catch any weird stares then stopped by falcon walmart where if your not wearing a gun you get looked at funny all in all a very pleasant day OCing in colorado

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    Very good!!

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    thanks i posted this up because i saw a lot of people were feeling uncomfortable OCing around here i felt weird the first 20 or so times i went out now i dont even think about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cofi View Post
    thanks i posted this up because i saw a lot of people were feeling uncomfortable OCing around here i felt weird the first 20 or so times i went out now i dont even think about it
    It took me around that many times to 'feel comfortable' and still than there are some places I don't want to open carry and would feel better conceal carrying, like the mall for one. Just guess it depends on my mood really, but I just got my CCW permit today so now I can open and conceal carry... which is great because it's hard to open carry in weather like this! lol....

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    I'm pretty sure the malls in Springs are both posted no concealed carry.

    Quote Originally Posted by strife1013 View Post
    It took me around that many times to 'feel comfortable' and still than there are some places I don't want to open carry and would feel better conceal carrying, like the mall for one. Just guess it depends on my mood really, but I just got my CCW permit today so now I can open and conceal carry... which is great because it's hard to open carry in weather like this! lol....

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    Bogidu - They are both posted no carry, but they cannot control CC as it is preempted under Colorado law and they don't have security using electronic detection, nor do they have metal detectors.

    I avoid the malls because I don't support business that doesn't support 2A rights. Just my opinion.

    On to the OP, I love that B&N I've been in there about five times since I started carrying and I have never had an issue with ANYONE in there. The patrons are very polite and either don't notice, don't care or ask what you're carrying and the employees are always helpful and great people. I've even had to ask them to look up books for me (which I should have found on my own, but yeah...) and they never brought up the firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZackL View Post
    Bogidu - They are both posted no carry, but they cannot control CC as it is preempted under Colorado law and they don't have security using electronic detection, nor do they have metal detectors.
    You're half right. They may not have metal detectors, but they do not have to. They are private property and the legistature allowed private property owners to have a say in it. They are NOT preempted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogidu View Post
    I'm pretty sure the malls in Springs are both posted no concealed carry.
    barns and nobles is outside the mall in its own freestanding structure no no weapons signs posted noone seemed to mind

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    Yep, and IIRC the last time I was at the Citadel the posted sign mentioned no concealed carry either.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesB View Post
    You're half right. They may not have metal detectors, but they do not have to. They are private property and the legistature allowed private property owners to have a say in it. They are NOT preempted.
    Last edited by bogidu; 02-10-2011 at 12:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesB View Post
    You're half right. They may not have metal detectors, but they do not have to. They are private property and the legistature allowed private property owners to have a say in it. They are NOT preempted.
    Metal detectors only apply to government buildings. Not all entrances to either Mall are posted. I CC there everytime I go. The purpose of CC is to 'conceal,' so I don't worry about it. If for some reason they saw the pistol, all they can do is ask you to leave, which I would. No gun signs have no force of law unless posted at every possible entrance. Even then, all they can do is tell you to leave. You have no legal duty to read everything that is pasted to a door. States that give signs the force of law (which is not CO) have specific, highly detailed regulations as to the type and placement. Failing that, an affirmative defense is "what sign?"

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    Barnes & Noble
    Original Message From: "Mary Ausman" <MJAusman@bn.com>
    To: XXXXXXXXXXX
    Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 1:42 PM
    Subject: Barnes & Noble
    Thank you for your email.
    While we are unable to discuss customer situations with an uninvolved third part, to answer your question, Barnes & Noble complies with the law and, except where prohibited by law, does not prohibit its customers from carrying handguns or other firearms in a Barnes & Noble store in accordance with the laws of the state in which a store is located.
    Sincerely,
    Mary Ausman
    Supervisor, Customer Retention
    Barnes & Noble, Inc. 122 Fifth Avenue New York, NY 10011
    tel: (800) 422-7717 fax: (212)352.3660 www.barnesandnobleinc.com
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    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research. These are my opinions, if you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

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