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    NC Castle Doctrine May Be Ammended

    Nobody picked up on it yet or is talking about it....so FYI

    If I read this correctly, the NC General Assembly is looking to discuss/vote(?) (Monday 2/7/11) on the NC Castle Doctrine, ammending it to add immunity from criminal and civil action for justifiable use of force. It would take affect December 1, 2011.



    PS. Sorry about the title of this thread. Should read may be ammended....
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    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
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    Seems reasonable to me. I especially like that tents and porches are included in the law, which provides coverage for campers that defend themselves from attack.
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    A little bit of redundancy regarding LEOs, but overall a pretty good looking bill.

    Does it look like it will get passed?
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    Thank you OCDO Moderator for updating the title to this thread. Maybe we will be able to change it back come this time next week.
    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
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    Dec 1st is a long way away, if this becomes law. I'd rather have it take effect the moment the ink is dry from the governor's signature, honestly
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    Thanks for the post. I'm going to get it on a couple sites I frequent. I have not checked the schedule in a few days and look what I miss.

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    Good to hear. Will pass it along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sultan62 View Post
    A little bit of redundancy regarding LEOs, but overall a pretty good looking bill.

    Does it look like it will get passed?
    You never can tell what will happen for sure. Keep watching for a GRNC alert when this bill goes to committee and then start pouring the heat on Senators in that committee.

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    We need this... It looked good to my non-lawyer eyes.

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    I just had this exchange with Senator Daniels, my rep. If you have a Senator on the Judiciary II committee, tell them we want this effective immediately. Let's get this done.



    Sen. Daniel,

    I see that the Castle Doctrine bill has been referred to Jud. II, which you co-chair. Is it a possibility to arrange the law so that it is effective immediately upon signing? Since this change requires no changes in procedure, time to plan for it, or any real affect on a state agency it would not seem to be a problem making it effective immediately. Thank you again for your support of this legislation and your service to our Burke County and the state of North Carolina.

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    I think that this is a valid point and will bring it up with my colleagues.

    Senator Warren T. Daniel

    You can check the members of Senate Judiciary II here.

    http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/Commi...%20Standing_71

    Also a companion House bill was introduced today. Time to email your House Reps too.

    http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillL...011&BillID=H52

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    [QUOTE=chiefjason;1463364]I just had this exchange with Senator Daniels, my rep. If you have a Senator on the Judiciary II committee, tell them we want this effective immediately. Let's get this done.


    Don't get too excited over these bills. They are not what we want. Needs to be some tweeking done.

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    Care to expand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketdad View Post
    Don't get too excited over these bills. They are not what we want. Needs to be some tweeking done.
    Not getting sued by the family or t*hug that tries to assualt me or brought up on charges of manslaughter for justified deadly force, sounds good to me, if it passes
    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketdad View Post
    Don't get too excited over these bills. They are not what we want. Needs to be some tweeking done.
    Well, the current law is garbage. So what's the problem with this one? And it tends to be easier to revise a law than to generate an entirely new one. Why is it a problem to strengthen the laws now and tweak any problems at a later date? Sometimes this is exactly why we never get anything done, "all or nothing." So far we have ended up with nothing. We did not loose these rights at one time, and the chance of getting them back at one time are slim to none. Would it be nice if we did, sure. But it's going to be a dog fight to get some of them back and there is no sense holding up popular legislation to wait for the harder fought legislation to pass.

    Unless I am missing something here, I don't see the problem with supporting this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calynn View Post
    Care to expand?

    Be patient, good things come to those who wait. Shouldn't be much longer

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    Quote Originally Posted by calynn View Post
    Care to expand?
    See Mekenders post in the parking lot thread

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    Cool

    I saw it before I saw your second one.

    Quote Originally Posted by mekender View Post
    I just got a reply back from my email to Rep Brown:

    There is a better Castle Doctrine bill coming I support. Larry
    Short and sweet, I like him more now...
    Good to hear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mekender View Post
    IOW, don't even THINK about suing the guy who shot you. Unless, of course, you want your prison stay to be even worse than it would have been.
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    and again, if passed, comes into effect on Dec 1, 2011
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    New CD with stand your ground and civil immunity for ANY justifiable use of force.

    Apologies to Cricketdad, is this what you were hinting at?

    http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascript...011&BillID=H74

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefjason View Post
    New CD with stand your ground and civil immunity for ANY justifiable use of force.

    Apologies to Cricketdad, is this what you were hinting at?

    http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascript...011&BillID=H74
    Sometimes its hard being on the inside and having to bite your tongue to keep from saying too much.

    This bill is a composite of other CD bills around the country. Taking the best of each of them.

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    HB74 and HB63 are lookin good, minus the dec. 1 start date.

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    The bill sounds good to me except the start date. The only other thing I would like to see is Constitutional carry anywhere. Shouldn't be any restrictions where we can carry. The thugs don't have laws.

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