Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 38

Thread: Springfield 1911 Range Officer... My first 1911!!

  1. #1
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Tacoma, WA
    Posts
    140

    Springfield 1911 Range Officer... My first 1911!!

    So I did it! I finally got my first 1911!!! It took me a while to figure out what I was going to get... I've always been a springfield fan so I went with them... So once I'm don't breaking it in, this will be my new carry gun... I carry a XD45 4", So one of my questions about 1911's is, what is the best way to carry it? cock n' locked, or hammer down, without a round in the chamber? I figured cock n' locked, but I'm a little nervous considering I've never carried a single action pistol... so any help would be nice... Thanks guys... btw, I got it at Bullseye, man I love that place!

  2. #2
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Lakewood, WA
    Posts
    1,001
    Cocked, locked and ready to rock is the way to go. That's how 1911's were designed to be carried. Hammer down can be dangerous, if anything.

    I carry a Springfield Amory XD .45 as well, and believe it or not, you're currently carrying a single action pistol! WITH NO SAFETY! (well mine has one, don't know about yours!) The striker his held in the cocked position, that's why that little doohickey sticks out of the back of the slide. When you pull the trigger, the sear drops into the frame and releases the striker.

    Carry with confidence. About every 2000 rounds, or every couple years, drop the slide with nothing in the chamber and make sure the hammer doesn't follow. Don't do it more often than that, you'll get peening on the hood of the chamber.
    Quote Originally Posted by SayWhat View Post

    Shooters before hooters.

  3. #3
    Regular Member SnarlyWino's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Spokane, Washington, United States
    Posts
    375
    Quote Originally Posted by .45ACPaddy View Post
    Cocked, locked and ready to rock is the way to go. That's how 1911's were designed to be carried. Hammer down can be dangerous, if anything.

    I carry a Springfield Amory XD .45 as well, and believe it or not, you're currently carrying a single action pistol! WITH NO SAFETY! (well mine has one, don't know about yours!) The striker his held in the cocked position, that's why that little doohickey sticks out of the back of the slide. When you pull the trigger, the sear drops into the frame and releases the striker.

    Carry with confidence. About every 2000 rounds, or every couple years, drop the slide with nothing in the chamber and make sure the hammer doesn't follow. Don't do it more often than that, you'll get peening on the hood of the chamber.
    What he said, + congratulations!

    Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk
    Keep Calm and Carry On,

    Snarly

    Pro Deo, Pro Familia, Pro Patria

  4. #4
    Regular Member Batousaii's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Kitsap Co., Washington, USA
    Posts
    1,234

    1911 - WooT

    Congratzz !
    - I have a Colt 1911 Combat Commander as my winter gun, i absolutely love it.
    - 80's series 1911 can be hammer down, but it is a "B" to thumb back, and true fact, Cocked and Locked is by design the way to carry it. Never Never Never carry a 70 series or earlier hammer down, they can discharge if dropped - 80's series have a firing pin block that prevents this ... For brands other than Colt, you'd need to know if it has a true firing pin block (80-S style) before deciding on a hammer down 1911.
    - I used to carry Hammer down with my (80 series) 1911, but after a little uncomfortable situation changed to standard, more traditional (and correct) Cocked and Locked. Thumbing a hammer back when stressed can be.. well.. stressful...
    - Another alternative is empty chamber and practice those Israeli slide racking drills. All in all it is about knowing (or learning) the mechanics of your firearm, and doing what is comfortable within it's mechanical safety features.

    Congrats on a great gun, 1911 is a damn sexy beast.

    Bat
    ~ ENCLAVE vmc ~
    The Enclave is looking for patriotic motorcycle riders in Washington State who support liberty and freedom for all. ~ Check us out!
    ~
    * " To be swayed neither by the opponent nor by his sword is the essence of swordsmanship." - Miyamoto Musashi.

  5. #5
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Renton, Washington, USA
    Posts
    1,201
    Congratulations! Cocked and locked is definitely the way to go. I have a Dan Wesson Bobtail Commander and that's how I carry mine. I was nervous at first, but as I learned more about my gun, I became very comfortable carrying it that way. 1911s are great guns, at least the ones I have shot have been.
    Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world; it's the only thing that ever does.- Margaret Mead


    Those who will not fight for justice today will fight for their lives in the future,

    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote. Benjamin Franklin

  6. #6
    Regular Member BigIrish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    edmonds, wa, ,
    Posts
    76

    Great info

    Quote Originally Posted by Batousaii View Post
    Congratzz !
    - I have a Colt 1911 Combat Commander as my winter gun, i absolutely love it.
    - 80's series 1911 can be hammer down, but it is a "B" to thumb back, and true fact, Cocked and Locked is by design the way to carry it. Never Never Never carry a 70 series or earlier hammer down, they can discharge if dropped - 80's series have a firing pin block that prevents this ... For brands other than Colt, you'd need to know if it has a true firing pin block (80-S style) before deciding on a hammer down 1911.
    - I used to carry Hammer down with my (80 series) 1911, but after a little uncomfortable situation changed to standard, more traditional (and correct) Cocked and Locked. Thumbing a hammer back when stressed can be.. well.. stressful...
    - Another alternative is empty chamber and practice those Israeli slide racking drills. All in all it is about knowing (or learning) the mechanics of your firearm, and doing what is comfortable within it's mechanical safety features.

    Congrats on a great gun, 1911 is a damn sexy beast.

    Bat
    Im in the market for a 1911, and had the same question lol...
    Any sugestions on a reasonable priced 1911?

  7. #7
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Tacoma, WA
    Posts
    140
    Thanks guys! I did feel like a little kid when I got it... So since I'm new to the 1911, what is the proper way to start shooting out of the box? sure I field strip it and oil it up before shooting? didn't really have to do that with my XD, until the first cleaning... but i know they are miles apart...

  8. #8
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    , Washington, USA
    Posts
    167
    Quote Originally Posted by BigIrish View Post
    Im in the market for a 1911, and had the same question lol...
    Any sugestions on a reasonable priced 1911?
    Held a Remington R1 today - pretty nice for the price (~$600 IIRC). Had some of the improvements I had to pay a smithy for, to make my Series 80 Colt work right... just before that terrible boating accident.

  9. #9
    Regular Member BigIrish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    edmonds, wa, ,
    Posts
    76

    Good price...

    I'll look up some reviews.

    Has anyone shot the Rock Island GI ($450+/-)
    In doing resherch and reading reviews it has top markimg ect.. Even better than the base line Pera Ordinance
    And another question is; what about night sights??

  10. #10
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Bremerton, Washington, USA
    Posts
    226
    The OP did say hammer down without a round in the chamber, which is perfectly safe. Not necessary, but for someone who hasn't carried a traditional single action, not an unwise decision. The ideal, as others have mentioned, is cocked and locked. Perhaps consider carrying the XD for a while longer until you become more confident and proficient in the design and function of your 1911.

    Great choice, I carry a Springfield 1911 as well, and am very pleased with it.

  11. #11
    State Researcher Bill Starks's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Nortonville, KY, USA
    Posts
    4,291
    +1 to all of the above

    However...... Get use to the folks asking... "You know your hammer is cocked?"

    Also... This thread USELESS without pics.... Gunny does not approve !


  12. #12
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Bremerton, Washington, USA
    Posts
    226
    Quote Originally Posted by M1Gunr View Post
    However...... Get use to the folks asking... "You know your hammer is cocked?"
    He speaketh the truth!

    I have yet to give in to the temptation to respond with 'I'm just happy to see you'.

  13. #13
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Tacoma, WA
    Posts
    140
    there is one thing that i'm too sure about... The sights... i've never really used adjustable sights, my xd still has the factory sights and are fixed... does it really matter? I'm leaning towards the wilson combat snag free sights, those should fit on my springer RO? any info would be appreciated... but I do love this gun, won't be my last one, but will always be my first...

  14. #14
    Campaign Veteran marshaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Fairfax County, Virginia
    Posts
    11,487
    Quote Originally Posted by BigIrish View Post
    I'll look up some reviews.

    Has anyone shot the Rock Island GI ($450+/-)
    In doing resherch and reading reviews it has top markimg ect.. Even better than the base line Pera Ordinance
    And another question is; what about night sights??
    I have both an RIA GI and an RIA Tactical. The Tactical I've modified extensively.

    Both are great shooters and were worth every penny. I shoot them better than my XD, or any plastic gun I've fired. Especially the Tactical. My favorite gun to shoot, ever.

  15. #15
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Gig Harbor, Washington, USA
    Posts
    78
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnsmith1521 View Post
    So I did it! I finally got my first 1911!!! It took me a while to figure out what I was going to get... I've always been a springfield fan so I went with them... So once I'm don't breaking it in, this will be my new carry gun... I carry a XD45 4", So one of my questions about 1911's is, what is the best way to carry it? cock n' locked, or hammer down, without a round in the chamber? I figured cock n' locked, but I'm a little nervous considering I've never carried a single action pistol... so any help would be nice... Thanks guys... btw, I got it at Bullseye, man I love that place!
    I carry a SA 1911 Milspec cocked and locked. Buy some snapcaps and carry in condition one around the house until you feel comfortable. Be sure to follow all safety procedures.

    I like the Range Officer. I have my eye on one too.

    Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

    Kryteon

  16. #16
    Regular Member SpyderTattoo's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Kent, Washington, USA
    Posts
    1,018
    Check out Ameriglo for night sights, specifically the "Hackathorn" setup. Do dome research on night sights before purchasing. I have a set of the "Hackathorn" sights on both my glocks and really like them.

    The first LE encounter I had, several years ago, I was carrying a Kimber in condition 1. The officer made a smarmy comment about open carrying not legal and "especially with the hammer back like that..." as he points to it.
    Certified Glock Armorer

    "A government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular individual citizen..." -- Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. App.181)

    A 1911 that works properly is as rare as a Glock that doesn't.

  17. #17
    Regular Member BigIrish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    edmonds, wa, ,
    Posts
    76

    Talking +5

    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    I have both an RIA GI and an RIA Tactical. The Tactical I've modified extensively.

    Both are great shooters and were worth every penny. I shoot them better than my XD, or any plastic gun I've fired. Especially the Tactical. My favorite gun to shoot, ever.
    thanks. i wish i could say money wasn't an issue....but as most people know....it is....blah blah blah
    i do really like the RIA Tac,

    i went to Sam's in Everett and tried out a couple pee shooters, i shot remarkably better with all the 1911's than i did with the XDM and S&W m&p.
    Last edited by BigIrish; 02-05-2011 at 11:35 AM.

  18. #18
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Renton, Washington, USA
    Posts
    1,201
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnsmith1521 View Post
    Thanks guys! I did feel like a little kid when I got it... So since I'm new to the 1911, what is the proper way to start shooting out of the box? sure I field strip it and oil it up before shooting? didn't really have to do that with my XD, until the first cleaning... but i know they are miles apart...

    I'm not familiar with your particular 1911, but it can't hurt to strip it and lubricate it, especially if the tolerances are tight. They (the gun store) should have advised you on that.
    Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world; it's the only thing that ever does.- Margaret Mead


    Those who will not fight for justice today will fight for their lives in the future,

    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote. Benjamin Franklin

  19. #19
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Bremerton, Washington, USA
    Posts
    226
    Quote Originally Posted by BigIrish View Post
    tried out a couple pee shooters
    Put on a raincoat!

  20. #20
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Wa, ,
    Posts
    2,769
    BigIrish,
    Go to the "1911 forum" anad check out the section on manufacturers.
    Also Google these places.. Armscor, Advanced tactical, Rock Island Arms. I have the RIA GI in 38 super. I have added better adjustable sights, combat hammer, Wilson Combat grip safety, Did a polish and buff, (Be very careful if you polish the feed ramp) with 2000 grit wet or dry. The RIA guns like to be run wet, not dripping with oil, but well lubed. I shot this group at 15 yds, in COLD weather. Can do better when warm no shivering.


  21. #21
    Regular Member BigIrish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    edmonds, wa, ,
    Posts
    76

    Cool +100

    Quote Originally Posted by aktion View Post
    Put on a raincoat!
    haha

  22. #22
    Regular Member BigIrish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    edmonds, wa, ,
    Posts
    76

    Talking nice shootin tex.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    BigIrish,
    Go to the "1911 forum" anad check out the section on manufacturers.
    Also Google these places.. Armscor, Advanced tactical, Rock Island Arms. I have the RIA GI in 38 super. I have added better adjustable sights, combat hammer, Wilson Combat grip safety, Did a polish and buff, (Be very careful if you polish the feed ramp) with 2000 grit wet or dry. The RIA guns like to be run wet, not dripping with oil, but well lubed. I shot this group at 15 yds, in COLD weather. Can do better when warm no shivering.

    good info,

  23. #23
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Tacoma, WA
    Posts
    140

    proper break in?

    So how many rounds would be considered a good break in? I was thinking around 400-500, then a good cleaning and I should be good to go... right?

    I would really like to thank everyone here on the WA forum, it's good to get opinions from Washingtonians! I can't wait to meet everyone at whatever next meet up coming up... I know there's one tomorrow and I might take my boy with me on this one and leave the girls at home...

  24. #24
    Regular Member BigIrish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    edmonds, wa, ,
    Posts
    76

    oh ya

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnsmith1521 View Post
    So how many rounds would be considered a good break in? I was thinking around 400-500, then a good cleaning and I should be good to go... right?

    I would really like to thank everyone here on the WA forum, it's good to get opinions from Washingtonians! I can't wait to meet everyone at whatever next meet up coming up... I know there's one tomorrow and I might take my boy with me on this one and leave the girls at home...
    Hell bring them with! I feel we here in WA are WAY ahead of the curve on OCDO
    And welcome!

  25. #25
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Nampa, Idaho, USA
    Posts
    1,096
    Welcome to Gods world of firearms! It's been said "Gods gun" "Gods caliber". I choose to follow God!

    The only time I was ever asked to leave a place was at a Cowboy Fast Draw Contest. I was in the stands as a spectator and one of the contestants didn't like me carrying. Then he noticed I was condition 1 and really freaked out!

    Enjoy!

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •