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    I have a chalange for all of us

    Those of you in or around Pierce county to look into the Pierce Countys “Community Academy” web adderss: http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/PC/abtus/...cademyinfo.htm
    and try atending. Those of you outside of this area see if your county has something simaler thing for you to take. The chalange I’m making is for us to step up and show the LEO’s that we know that with the rights we enjoy , the right to carry openly or conceled, we have a Dutie to help others in need be it a little old lady, pritty gal, or that LEO that just stoped a car full people and could use backup to handel the situation safely. Can we as a community do this?

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    You're going to have to translate that into English for me. I have no idea what you're trying to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainsail View Post
    You're going to have to translate that into English for me. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
    +1.

    Some of us already help old ladies and 'pritty' gals anyways, and jumping in as an uninvited 3rd party guest in a traffic-stop is a very bad idea (that's why they issue them radios, and teach the LEOs to use words like "back-up").

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    Are you are suggesting…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Those of you in or around Pierce county to look into the Pierce Countys “Community Academy” web adderss: http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/PC/abtus/...cademyinfo.htm
    and try atending. Those of you outside of this area see if your county has something simaler thing for you to take. The chalange I’m making is for us to step up and show the LEO’s that we know that with the rights we enjoy , the right to carry openly or conceled, we have a Dutie to help others in need be it a little old lady, pritty gal, or that LEO that just stoped a car full people and could use backup to handel the situation safely. Can we as a community do this?
    I have a duty to protect myself and my family. I have no duty to help anyone else. I will however help others if the situation calls for it and I can do it safely.

    As far as helping an LEO that just stopped a car full of people and could use backup? Uh....I don't freakin think so. You can go right on ahead and try but I am willing to bet that you will either be told to get the hell away or you will be held at gunpoint until his real backup arrives. They don't want your help because they have no idea who you are. They know the other guys in the uniform.
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    This is very interesting to me. Thanks for posting. I had no idea that they had such a program. I am all for getting to know my local LEOs. It has come in handy before.

    I do agree there is no way I would be offering back-up so to speak. Now if it was a SHTF moment and I was say in a situation and bullets were flying... And it was an LEO, me and innocent bystandards. That would probably go out the window. I would also hope that the chance to signal my intentions to help, would present itself before I drew my weapon and ended up getting shot myself.
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    Attend the academy, but forget the rest of it.

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    I’m sure Tawnos won’t like my version any better but here is my attempt to translate where I think Edger was going with this.

    Those of you living in and around Pierce county please take a look at this website: http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/PC/abtus/...cademyinfo.htm, it outlines the county’s “Community Academy”.

    I believe other LEA’s around the state may offer similar academy’s, and I was thinking attendance would prove informative into understanding your department’s outlook on whether they practice reactive enforcement, or problem oriented, problem solving community policing. I think it would be great if we could arrange for several in the OC community to attend this course and others like it. I’m not advocating OC at the course since I’m not sure if we could, but at any rate it may offer us a platform to help LE better understand our position on OC, and why we take our rights to heart. You participation would be greatly appreciated, I’m sure the experience will be beneficial for them and us.

    The course should be informative to attend at the very least. Not to mention helping a few hotties and old Betty’s out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post
    I’m sure Tawnos won’t like my version any better but here is my attempt to translate where I think Edger was going with this.

    Those of you living in and around Pierce county please take a look at this website: http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/PC/abtus/...cademyinfo.htm, it outlines the county’s “Community Academy”.

    I believe other LEA’s around the state may offer similar academy’s, and I was thinking attendance would prove informative into understanding your department’s outlook on whether they practice reactive enforcement, or problem oriented, problem solving community policing. I think it would be great if we could arrange for several in the OC community to attend this course and others like it. I’m not advocating OC at the course since I’m not sure if we could, but at any rate it may offer us a platform to help LE better understand our position on OC, and why we take our rights to heart. You participation would be greatly appreciated, I’m sure the experience will be beneficial for them and us.

    The course should be informative to attend at the very least. Not to mention helping a few hotties and old Betty’s out?



    IMHO, Edgar's version was more amusing...

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    Filled out the application. Sounds like it could be fun! Oddly they ask for the last 4 of my SSI#, probably for proper identification eh? Cant have Al'Qaida signing up can we?
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    After starting to read the post I think the primary challenge would be for someone to learn how to spell or get a free spell check program. Switch to Chrome for a browser and it will do it for you. Also translates from the most common "foreign languages" although I'm not sure gibberish is considered one.
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    thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by jbone View Post
    I’m sure Tawnos won’t like my version any better but here is my attempt to translate where I think Edger was going with this.

    Those of you living in and around Pierce county please take a look at this website: http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/PC/abtus/...cademyinfo.htm, it outlines the county’s “Community Academy”.

    I believe other LEA’s around the state may offer similar academy’s, and I was thinking attendance would prove informative into understanding your department’s outlook on whether they practice reactive enforcement, or problem oriented, problem solving community policing. I think it would be great if we could arrange for several in the OC community to attend this course and others like it. I’m not advocating OC at the course since I’m not sure if we could, but at any rate it may offer us a platform to help LE better understand our position on OC, and why we take our rights to heart. You participation would be greatly appreciated, I’m sure the experience will be beneficial for them and us.

    The course should be informative to attend at the very least. Not to mention helping a few hotties and old Betty’s out?
    thank you for the translation i ant the best at puting things in words.
    as far as helping LEO's go I have three times offered ade. once was told toget the f** out of the area. i said ok later and off i went. once told no thank you back-up was enrout, again i said ok and off i went. and once was told yes unfortunately the nut job with the knife lunged at the cop and was shot. now i live in the back side of the county and it normaly takes one to two houres for a cop to show up and longer for backup so the sheriff officers night be more open to help dont know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amlevin View Post
    After starting to read the post I think the primary challenge would be for someone to learn how to spell or get a free spell check program. Switch to Chrome for a browser and it will do it for you. Also translates from the most common "foreign languages" although I'm not sure gibberish is considered one.
    i did use spell check the problem is it dont speak with the same accent i do

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    Hey Edgar, I send you a PM... check your inbox!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    thank you for the translation...
    Happy to help, I've though of doing the same my area (minus open carry at it) but know with my work hours I could never make all the required dates of attendance.
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    Man and I thought I was a bad speller.....as for jumping in the middle of a police stop I don't effn think so.Thats nuts.I have already built a relationship with police in my area as well as local business and they leave us alone.Some will even stop and say hello give me their cell numbers to call instead of dispatch if I have any gang banger problems.
    There was a shooting here on pac hwy the other night and Bookman (as he was driving to work) said the cops had people detained and were looking for another suspect.Now imagine you ,unknown to cops just wander into that saying hey whats up fellas.Chances are your'e going to wind up in cuffs.

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    There are any number of reasons a person may not spell or use grammer properly. I had an english teacher whose favorite saying was "Never use a preposition to end a sentence with"
    A person may have a learning disability, never attended school, suffered an accident, etc. Give Edgar a little slack, he is at least trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    There are any number of reasons a person may not spell or use grammer properly. I had an english teacher whose favorite saying was "Never use a preposition to end a sentence with"
    A person may have a learning disability, never attended school, suffered an accident, etc. Give Edgar a little slack, he is at least trying.
    +1

    And it doesn't mean his viewpoint is worth any less than anyone else's.

    I know I have to continually work on mine and still fall way short of the standard of many.

    Edgar take the criticism as constructive and you will get better over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    There are any number of reasons a person may not spell or use grammer properly. I had an english teacher whose favorite saying was "Never use a preposition to end a sentence with"
    A person may have a learning disability, never attended school, suffered an accident, etc. Give Edgar a little slack, he is at least trying.
    We're just giving him a friendly poke or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    Edgar take the criticism as constructive and you will get better over time.
    He doesn't even have to get better. I'll still read his posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amlevin View Post
    He doesn't even have to get better. I'll still read his posts.
    I will too. I just don't want him to stop posting because others criticize the way he posts. I know I changed my run on paragraphs a bit, from constructive criticism by others here.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger Dr View Post
    There are any number of reasons a person may not spell or use grammer properly. I had an english teacher whose favorite saying was "Never use a preposition to end a sentence with"
    A person may have a learning disability, never attended school, suffered an accident, etc. Give Edgar a little slack, he is at least trying.
    Precisely the reason I didn't bring it up. A good friend of mine is dyslexic so I understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeroket View Post
    Precisely the reason I didn't bring it up. A good friend of mine is dyslexic so I understand.
    My good friend growing up too, brilliant but couldn't spell at all and many times almost spoke in riddles, simply because his dyslexia was so bad it even affected the way he spoke. I use to tease him and call him Yoda.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
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    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    My good friend growing up too, brilliant but couldn't spell at all and many times almost spoke in riddles, simply because his dyslexia was so bad it even affected the way he spoke. I use to tease him and call him Yoda.
    LOL. My buddy was not quite that bad but he ended up being an electrical engineer for Boeing. His is unbelievably smart.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeroket View Post
    LOL. My buddy was not quite that bad but he ended up being an electrical engineer for Boeing. His is unbelievably smart.
    Yea maybe my buddy isn't so smart he ended up marrying a Canadian and moving to Canada.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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