skiingislife725
Regular Member
Birk has resigned. About time he did something right!
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2014247418_birk17m.html
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2014247418_birk17m.html
The Blue line should be labeled Black and Blue!
Birk resigned so he can do a latteral transfer to another LE agency. If he was fired he would have a hard time finding a LE job. I dont think he finaly did the right thing.
Birk resigned so he can do a latteral transfer to another LE agency. If he was fired he would have a hard time finding a LE job. I dont think he finaly did the right thing.
That is what I was thinking probably some mid size city in another state.
Hopefully the residents of that city will make and wear T-shirts that say:
Don't Birk Me, Bro!
Birk resigned so he can do a latteral transfer to another LE agency. If he was fired he would have a hard time finding a LE job. I dont think he finaly did the right thing.
What Birk did was illegal, it was murder. But Birk is merely a symptom of a systemic problem in America IMO.
I hate to go off on things like this but let;s think about all of this for a moment. In war, meaning overseas, when we are in a country and fighting the enemy, there are rules of engagement, but really, even if a civilian was killed for no reason, the military person who shot the civilian would likely not be charged with a crime, such as murder. Here, in the states, it is rare that an LEO is charged with murder, I mean, they really have to do something terrible to be charged, and something even more terrible to be convicted and be given some real time. We are not civilians, we are potential criminals, potential threats to ourselves and the people around us, at least, that is the perception of the LEO.
I will give an example of something that disturbed me the other day when reading the Times. A woman in Lakewood walked out of her house with a gun, pointed it at officers, demanded they kill her, and they shoot her to death. Don't get me wrong, that situation is nothing like this one. What I am saying though is that when we go down the road where LEO's don't even consider other alternatives to stopping someone, we are heading into dangerous territory. I understand the safety of the LEO is important, but no more paramount than the safety of the public, or even the person that they are making contact with. Their job is dangerous, I get it, but there is only so much latitude they should be given before the people say STOP. I think we have far passed the point where we should have collectively yelled STOP.
I still think these cops should face charges in these things.They are supposed to be protecting the public and it seems they sure get alot of free passes.When I lived in Vegas they had an incident where police killed a woman in her apt on a drug raid.Well turns out it was not only the wrong apt.It was the wrong apartment complex.Nothing was done.I think every cop involved right up to the one planning the raid should face murder charges.They are supposed to be at a higher standard.
Nick and I last time we all went down town came across a homeless guy on the waterfront carving totems with a pocket knife.We desperately tried to find a cop to shoot him because apparently carving a stick with a pocket knife warrants the death penalty per SPD.Of late when I carry my defensive sidearm I wonder who I need to protect myself from.!!!!
That is what I was thinking probably some mid size city in another state.
He's a liability now, doubt he'll be hired anywhere.
Oh, my, no. There was an article approx. (two years?) ago that went into some detail about police who get disciplined or fired in one place finding an LEO job in another jurisdiction. The article focused on the east coast for its examples, if I recall, but I think its entirely possible for Birk to find a small town or small city position, unless an insurer objects or something.
I'm pretty foggy on this, but it seems to hinge on whether the cop's LE license is revoked, say for a crime. If correct, it would mean that as long as a person has a license to be a cop, he's hire-able within the jurisdiction of the licensing authority (state I guess).
Diaz said that if the Office of Professional Accountability (OPA) presents him with a recommendation for discipline it will be kept on file with the department and a copy will be sent to the Washington State Criminal Justice Training Commission.
Depending on the department's findings, the move could prevent Birk from becoming a law enforcement officer anywhere in the state.
Joe Hawe, executive director of the Washington State Criminal Justice Training Commission, said it will be up to the commission to review the case and conduct its own investigation.
"Our responsibility under the law is to review any investigative issue for the decertification of police officers," Hawe said.
If the commission determines that Birk should be decertified then "he would not be able to be a police officer in the state of Washington," Hawe said on Wednesday.