jeffrey-r
Regular Member
OCed tonight in a very busy Best Buy for about 30 minutes. No issues, no complaints, no security being called, no weeping children, no teenagers trying to grab my gun... just everything was fine.
Haven't been on in a while so thought I'd post again. Open carried at Panera Bread yesterday without issues.
They did mess up my sandwich, but other than that no issues. Continue to open carry every day.
Carry on!!!
Glock214
Haven't had any negative interactions for a few months until this evening I got a phone call that a relative had a heart attack and was at the Lakeland Regional Hospital in St Joe. I rushed their straight from work and stayed until I had to get my younger brother. When I returned back at the hospital an hour later I was met by a security officer at the door who told me that I was carrying illegally as they had signs posted at the door due to the hospital being a PFZ (which looked very similar to signs posted at schools except homemade). After briefly explaining to him that CPL holders can OC in PFZs and stating Mi Attorney General Opinion 7113 on MCL 28.4250 he told me that I was lying to him because he is a CPL holder and there is no way around the PFZ laws. :banghead: He also said that it didn't matter if the place was private or public because if whoever is in charge doesn't want weapons there that is their choice, even though he couldn't give me an answer when I asked him which category the hospital fell into. I didn't want to stand and argue with him so I asked if he'd let me take my brother to the room and drop him off as long as I left immediately after that. He agreed and I went to the room, said goodbye and that I'd be back tomorrow and left. The security officer was waiting for me by the door to let me know that he had "looked up the laws and was being nice by not having me arrested for a 90 day misdemeanor." Now, I know that private property rules supersedes MI Laws, but before I go back tomorrow for another visit, I wanted to make sure that I am legal to carry there. I've OC'd multiple times at my old high school with no problems. But I'm a little in the dark about the Hospital. I'm fairly certain that I am but wanted to get your opinions on this as its been a long day and my brain is way too tired to think right this moment.
I didn't see any signs therefore I decided to carry as I normally do. I did know that they asked to leave them at home, however they also stated they would not post any negative anti gun signs nor ask their employees to confront a guest carrying a sidearm. Unless I was mistaken, I do not think I violated any of their policies regarding firearms.
Open carried today at Jude's Barber Shop, and Walgreens.
Carry On!!!
i agree fozzy. MOC has actually been known to host open carry seminars at a panera bread store in recent days because the local franchisee is pro-gun.Call me silly but I choose not to spend my cash at a business that has publicly stated they don't want guns there, no matter how wishy/washy their statement/policy is.
i agree fozzy. MOC has actually been known to host open carry seminars at a panera bread store in recent days because the local franchisee is pro-gun.
LARA, lists Lakeland Regional as: Domestic Nonprofit Corporation. Apparently, such a corporation is funded/subsidized by a membership which can not receive profits from the corporation. Since Lakeland is not funded/subsidized by the state, I suspect, it's "private" property and falls into the, "Their house, their rules" category.
Open carried 18 Dec 14 in the Detroit Institute of Arts. Was questioned by security there, was asked to cover it up / leave it in the car. But ultimately, was not denied entrance. Spent several hours there. No other patrons said anything to me, no police arrived that I saw.